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Better text editing

zkarjzkarj Posts: 3Members
I described the problems in [a href="http://www.realmacsoftware.com/forums/index.php/forums/viewthread/41587/"]this thread[/a].

I need either a markup-based editor, or a rich editor which reflects HTML styles.

In either case I need to be able to set and to see where I have the basic HTML building blocks applied. Namely heading, paragraph, list and so on. Currently there is no way to tell what heading level is applied.

A markup-based editor might seem counter-intuitive, but offered as a "mode" for the editor it could add significant power for those creating a lot of content. E.g. in a wiki I can type something like...
!Heading 1
!!Heading 2

Paragraph

* Unordered list item 1
* Unordered list item 2

!!Heading 2b

# Ordered list item 1
# Ordered list item 2

Paragraph

...in a matter of seconds. The template will take care of exactly how it looks on the final page. And that's the key here. The current editor is not trying to be wysiwyg because it doesn't include any theme elements. Therefore it must reflect the inherent styles somehow. I guess there needs to be a stylesheet for the editor which makes things clear.

In fact, a style editor might be in order too. This would operate by placing classes on p, div and span tags I would imagine. Not to define the look of the style, but rather which is in use.

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  • Paul BradforthPaul Bradforth Cornwall UKPosts: 3,336Members
    on 1292319644:
    I described the problems in [a href="http://www.realmacsoftware.com/forums/index.php/forums/viewthread/41587/"]this thread[/a].

    I need either a markup-based editor, or a rich editor which reflects HTML styles.

    In either case I need to be able to set and to see where I have the basic HTML building blocks applied.

    Yes, that would be very nice indeed. Currently I use the Markdown plugin for RapidWeaver which you can get here, if that's any help. Not perfect, but it certainly makes formatting a lot easier.
    best wishes

    Paul

    http://www.paulbradforth.com
    My book "RapidWeaver 5 Revealed" is out now
  • BikemanBikeman Posts: 310Members
    on 1292319644:
    Yes, that would be very nice indeed. Currently I use the Markdown plugin for RapidWeaver which you can get here, if that's any help. Not perfect, but it certainly makes formatting a lot easier.
    Paul,
    Thanks for the link. I downloaded the plugin but notice it is from 2006. Does it work in RW5 as well as RW4? I know some older plugin do not.
    Also do you/can you import the Markdown pages into text stacks?
    Thanks,
    -Bikeman
  • Paul BradforthPaul Bradforth Cornwall UKPosts: 3,336Members
    on 1292339806:
    Thanks for the link. I downloaded the plugin but notice it is from 2006. Does it work in RW5 as well as RW4? I know some older plugin do not.
    Also do you/can you import the Markdown pages into text stacks?
    Thanks,
    -Bikeman

    Hi Bikeman; yes, the plugin works fine in RapidWeaver 5 as far as I can see. I know it's old, but it seems fine. I use it in text Stacks all the time; just select some text and go to the Format menu and choose 'Markup Language' and then 'Markdown' and start typing. Then you get proper p tags when you hit Return instead of line breaks, and it's so much easier to use a bit of custom CSS to set the margin-top/bottom of paragraphs and headers to get some nice layout.

    EDIT: reading your mail again, it occurs to me that you might be thinking that the Markdown plugin is a page type that you choose when you add a page; it isn't, it just appears in the Format]Markup Language menu, and can be applied to any text anywhere, either Styled Text or Stacks/Blocks etc.
    best wishes

    Paul

    http://www.paulbradforth.com
    My book "RapidWeaver 5 Revealed" is out now
  • BikemanBikeman Posts: 310Members
    EDIT: reading your mail again, it occurs to me that you might be thinking that the Markdown plugin is a page type that you choose when you add a page; it isn
  • Paul BradforthPaul Bradforth Cornwall UKPosts: 3,336Members
    Oops, sorry! It seems actually to be quite hard to find the Markdown plugin these days for some reason. I may have sent you to the wrong one; all I did was Google for 'Markdown RapidWeaver', and got a few hits and picked one. Try this one instead! Let me know if it's the right one?
    best wishes

    Paul

    http://www.paulbradforth.com
    My book "RapidWeaver 5 Revealed" is out now
  • BikemanBikeman Posts: 310Members
    That last link is it. Thanks so much. Much, Much easier to format the text.
    Thanks again,
    -Bikeman
  • Paul BradforthPaul Bradforth Cornwall UKPosts: 3,336Members
    on 1292351138:
    That last link is it. Thanks so much. Much, Much easier to format the text.
    Thanks again,
    -Bikeman

    Good, I'm glad. I've made a note of the link for future reference :-)
    I can't think why it's so hard to find; there's no link to it in the 'Add-ons' section of the Realmac website, because that's where I looked first. Really, this is more or less an essential plugin!
    best wishes

    Paul

    http://www.paulbradforth.com
    My book "RapidWeaver 5 Revealed" is out now
  • shartesharte Posts: 7Members
    An issue with Rapidweaver's text editing is I see after entering plain text, RW uses the break tag versus the paragraph tag. I see there are work arounds but to me that shows how, in many ways, RW is not yet a mature program.

    Even in WYSIWYG mode in Dreamweaver, text is applied with paragraph tags. How hard could that be?

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