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greeneye48 · June 2012

I am building this site for a client this the link
http://www.innerspace7.co.uk/New Growth Life Coaching/index.html

i have already built most of the pages but now they would like to be able to edit it themselves.
I was thinking of using webyep but do i have to redo the site again or can i just add webyep to my existing site and just make bits of it editable or is there another CMS i can use where i don't have to start the site again? and is easy to add to the site.

bobmax48 · June 2012

You only have to redo the parts that they want to edit in the browser. I use WebYep on a site that out of the twenty pages or so only 5 of them use WebYep. You can mix both WebYep and other stacks on the page together as long as the page has the extension php. I use both the Stacks from Tsooj Media or the WepYep snippets.

greeneye48 · June 2012

Thanks a lot i think she wants to edit most of the pages, is it easy to set up? and is there any tutorials i can find to do it?

bobmax48 · June 2012

The setup can be tricky, you have to men sure the permissions are right. Check out this page for tutorials: http://www.obdev.at/products/webyep/index.html

If the client is wanting to edit all of the material on all of the pages then I would think it might be better for them to use a real CMS like Joomla or Drupal. We use WepYep to add downloadable attachments that can change from time to time and for a newsticker that has info added that is timely.

pbarrera · June 2012

Personally, I find Pagelime and Joe Workman's Pagelime Stacks alot easier (for me and the client) to use than WebYep. Every situation is a bit unique - depending on the layout and areas the client wants to edit - but Pagelime seems to be quite versatile to me.

Good luck.

Phillip B.
Fort Myers, FL

greeneye48 · June 2012

Thanks a lot guys i have already built most of the site already and she likes it i dont really want to start it all over again i dont really know Joomla or Drupal that well yet i so i would prefer to use Wordpress but i want to keep it simple and use the Rapidweaver one but

greeneye48 · June 2012

but i will look at Pagelime or maybe convince her to let me edit it for her?

greeneye48 · June 2012

Hi with Pagelime can i add it to the existing pages or do i have to redo the page also is there any tutorials i can have a look at to see how it all works?
this is the site
http://www.innerspace7.co.uk/New Growth Life Coaching/index.html

pbarrera · August 2012

The PageLime Stack is like any other Stack. You can simply add it to an existing page.

You can watch an intro video and test drive the PageLime interface here.

It all looked so easy, but for me, it was anything but. I got things to work well on a RW 4 site, but had nothing but headaches on a RW 5 site (despite excellent support from Joe Workman and PageLime directly). Have decided to check out some WebYep Stacks instead.

Crossing my fingers,

Phillip B.
Fort Myers, FL

Gille · August 2012

Nobody looks at pulsopro? Really easy to integrate, really cheap and many functions (cms/gallery/blog/slider). You must edit the content in the backend (some user prefer the direct editing) but it's one of the best out there.

shanemo · August 2012

+100 for PulsePro

Rusty Wood · August 2012

Love PulsePro and Armadillo ...

Both great to use !!

shanemo · August 2012

and even better to use TOGETHER!!!

dhidding · August 2012

For me, Armadillo is the way to go. It's super-easy to install and works great. Plus, Jonathan's support is fantastic (well - so is Joe Workman's...but I've never used PageLime, so I can't comment on that CMS).

You can see Armadillo in use here. My client has FULL CONTROL over all content (main body and side bar). After using it for a few days, they asked to have it implemented on their homepage too.

Armadillo even comes with a built-in lightbox. Click either of the images on their NEWS! page to see it in action.

Cheers,

Dave

shanemo · August 2012

Love PulsePro and Armadillo ...

Both great to use !!

and even better to use TOGETHER!!!

Rusty Wood · August 2012

@shanemo

Never thought of that !!

Can you use the picture gallery from PulsePro within Armadillo ?

Rusty

pbarrera · August 2012

Just successfully used WebYep combined with some WebYep Stacks by Tsooj Media. Though installing and setting up WebYep could be easier, I'm more than happy with the results! I needed a CMS tool with strong repeating region capabilities and the WebYep/WebYep Stacks combo really came through for me! And Joost at Tsooj Media was great at answering my questions.

Haven't heard of PulsePro. I'm going to check that out. I'm finding out there may not be one CMS solution for every kind of CMS need our clients have.

That's my my two cents. Keep the change.

Phillip B.
Fort Myers, FL

shanemo · August 2012

@Rusty Wood

Nope! That will not work...the php embed will not take on an armadillo page.

greeneye48 · August 2012

Thanks a lot folks hard to decide which one to choose but it seems that you need to have a couple cms solutions which one do people feel is easy to set up or is it best just to have pagelime,armadillo and pulspro and use which is needed, i am really looking for the best all rounder and easy set up?

shanemo · August 2012

i am really looking for the best all rounder and easy set up?

In that case i'd go with armadillo. easy to setup and use, works FANTASTICALLY.

pbarrera · August 2012

I think ease of setup is relative. If you're more technically-minded than others, one product may appeal to you. If you're technically-challenged (like me), another option may appeal to you. My advice is to read the documentation first and see if you understand everything.

Phillip B.
Fort Myers, FL

greeneye48 · August 2012

Thanks a lot,
I just want to know
i have some sites in RW4 and i want to use RW5 also but i want to use stacks V1 in RW4 and stacks V2 in RW5 but when you install stacks 2 it overrides V1 which then does not open the site properly in RW4 because of the stacks.
Is there anyway around this.?

Rob Beattie · August 2012

Regarding the CMS issue - for simple edits, I think Client Edit works pretty well.
http://www.rapidinsights.co.uk/tutorials/client_edit/

Rob

Jody · August 2012

I agree that exactly what the client will want to edit and the technical comfort level of the designer would be the factors governing which CMS options would work well. I'm looking at this now, and Phillip's difficulty getting PageLime to work in RW5 is not an experience I wish to duplicate. Wonder if anyone else out there has tried PageLime and found it worked perfectly well? I took a look at Armadillo, and simply couldn't understand how it worked. I don't want to edit pages from anywhere, I'm not interested in using it for blogging. I just need to be able to give my clients an idiot-proof, VERY EASY way to edit some content. Stuff that won't get overridden each time I republish the site. They want to be able to post notices, events, some pics, upload some pdf forms, etc. I assume Armadillo could do this, but the demo site certainly does not showcase anything that makes sense. PulsePro looks interesting, and seems like clients might find it easy to use. My goal is to create a page, or a section of a page and have them add info. I want to control the layout enough visually so they can't uglify it, and give them simple to follow instructions.

I don't code, and would appreciate a solution that's very easy to implement. Any more thoughts or experiences to share?

Ed Brenner · August 2012

The choice depends on what your client wants to do, as @Jody pointed out and what you as the designer are comfortable with using.

I started with PulseCMS. I prefer that it's 'self hosted' and I get to set it up and maintain its updates. And I continue to suggest it.

I've used Armadillo a bit. What you have to keep in mind about it is that it 'builds' its own pages, outside of RW basically. Clients don't get 'little' areas on a page to 'edit', they actually build the page. With the exception of course for the 'base' Theme elements that RW uses.

Another option I've used is DropCMS by Will Woodgate. Easy to use, pretty flexible. I like the DropBox integration for old DropBox accounts with the Public folder.

Another option is the Dynamic Content stack by Blueball Design.

And then there is AceStacks. I'm not certain how they work though.

Jody · August 2012

Oooh, some new stuff to check out for this list of CMS. Thanks Ed! Your point about Armadillo is interesting. I'm not sure I want the client to build a page. I'll find out more details about their needs, but I suspect I simply want to provide them a content area, or sidebar or some such on a RW page that they can easily post content to - text, pics and upload pdfs. So Armadillo might not be the best choice for that.

I guess I'm thinking a safe sandbox that I can create for them to play in, yet it stays an integral part of the overall RW site.

Ed Brenner · August 2012

@Jody another 'key' point, what does the client need to be able to do? And, of course, what are they capable of doing.

I've found that most are comfortable with PulseCMS. Just add the 'php embed snippet' to what/where you need the content to appear and thats it. Mark even has a Google Group too.

Gille · August 2012

@Ed , indeed PulsePro is my favorite too. But has 1 thing that I dislike. That is his gallery. All images are in height or width. I would like to see boxes of the same height & width with the images scaled inside. Already asked him but he has no plans to change it (yet).

greeneye48 · August 2012

That's really good information like Jody i want something that is easy to use i can code if i have to but i am more of a designer and don;t want to spend my time coding i just
want to give the client some way of changing things on their web site

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