Thanks chaps @VictorStar the options werent available, @isaiah suggested the remedy by Click and L in the Layout Area
@MarkSealey yes Stacks 3 is far more flexible, however i cant reproduce my problem again, i have now found that selecting the “popover” option isnt very friendly as it always Pops Over the Layout Area and cannot be moved, i thought what good is that ?
I certainly have a lot of new stuff to learn 
Tim