# 8.1.1 is Badly Broken. Where can I get a 8.1 beta +/- September 2018?

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**Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\
**Created:** [January 26, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784 "2019-01-26T10:22:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![ricinport](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/ricinport/32/9349_2.png) [@ricinport](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/ricinport)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/1 "2019-01-26T10:22:47Z")

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I’ve been living with 8.1 beta with barely a problem for about 4 months.  
I was originally pushed to 8.1 beta by RealMac because 8.0 was causing the preview loop problem.

I updated to 8.1 (official) on Thursday when the update window appeared on start-up.  
I worked a lot on my site over the past 2 days without publishing/exporting.

Just ‘updated’ to 8.1.1 (again when the update window appeared on start-up).  
Tried to publish my site and the export fails with a ‘NSInvalidArgumentException’.  
The message goes on to blame SiteMap Plus from Loghound Software.  
I then get beach-balling to the point I have to force quit.

I’ve tried going back to 8.1. but I get the same problem (I’d never actually tried a publish on this weeks 8.1.).  
I tried going back further to 8.0 but my site won’t then open saying it needs an 8.1 version.

Where can I get back to an 8.1 of about 4 months ago? Because the 8.1 of January 23rd is broken for me (badly) yet my site is now deeply into 8.1 territory and won’t open in 8.0?

This is going to F… Up my weekend. I have already given clients urls’s with new products that I’ve updated so I need to publish my last 2 days site work.

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**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/2 "2019-01-26T11:12:00Z")

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Sitemap plus has an updated out for 8.1. Are you sure you have the latest version?

> [@SiteMap Plus compatibility problem. Big time](http://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/sitemap-plus-compatibility-problem-big-time/24734/5):
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> We posted a fix to this as a beta about a week ago – less than 24 hours after the report of the issue. We posted about that to a few related threads here on the forum too. And we posted the update at Jan 23rd, 7:00pm CST right before I ate dinner. My wife started sending out replies to that effect after we finished dinner and homework with the kids. That was about 24 hours ago and about 12 hours prior to your post here. I’m guessing you must have gotten one of the very last “we’re still workin…

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**Author:** ![ricinport](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/ricinport/32/9349_2.png) [@ricinport](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/ricinport)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/3 "2019-01-26T11:23:21Z")

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@teefers

Thanks for the link Doug. I’ll try it out.  
Meantime I removed the SiteMap Plus page and published without a problem.

I wonder if it’s time to move on from SiteMap Plus.  
I never used it as a viewable page as such. More because I thought it was good for search engines.

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**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/4 "2019-01-26T11:53:57Z")

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Search engines(along with other bots) will use a sitemap as a starting point to scan a site. Sitemap plus, if I remember (not at a Mac) allows you to index pages that aren’t included in navigation. The built-in sitemap generated by RapidWeaver only list pages marked as “include in navigation.”

Neither will list _generated pages_ like blog posts, poster pages, and CMS stuff.

My experience is that search engines will eventually find and catalog every page they see whether it’s in the sitemap or not. The sitemap probably speeds up the “discovery” process. They ’ll crawl all the links they find on each page unless directed not to follow or index by meta tags or robots.txt files. My understanding is they will “timeout” if the pages take to long to load or index.

There are some “after publishing” sitemap generators on the market that will build a _complete_ sitemap after a site has been published. These Apps should include all the generated pages.

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**Author:** ![ricinport](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/ricinport/32/9349_2.png) [@ricinport](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/ricinport)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/5 "2019-01-26T13:42:53Z")

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@teefers  
Very informative. Thanks for taking the time to summarise that.

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**Author:** ![claidheamdanns](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/claidheamdanns/32/2374_2.png) [@claidheamdanns](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/claidheamdanns)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/6 "2019-01-26T21:25:45Z")

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8.1.1 completely borked. A site that I published just last week on 8.0.3 comes up with TONS of lost resources when opened in 8.1.1.

Totally unusable — headed back to 8.0.3!

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**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/7 "2019-01-26T22:17:25Z")

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You might try under advanced setting in RapidWeaver 8.03 Make Document Portable. That should copy all the resources into the project file. Then when you go to 8.1.1 they should be found. I don’t know for sure if this will work, as I have not had the “resource” problem all through betas of 8.1.

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**Author:** ![system](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/system/32/25301_2.png) [@system](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/8-1-1-is-badly-broken-where-can-i-get-a-8-1-beta-september-2018/24784/8 "2019-02-26T08:17:28Z")

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