# Elements Publishing Unreliable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elements\ **Created:** [March 31, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010 "2025-03-31T15:25:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![logrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@logrunner](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/logrunner)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/1 "2025-03-31T15:25:51Z")
Regarding this post: [DevPack Collection / Publishing Issues - #4 by logrunner](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/devpack-collection-publishing-issues/46980/4) Every time I publish, I am having to remember to check that the Assets folder in my DevPack has been published, if I have changed any assets (PHP includes in my case). I end up having to copy the files from my DevPack to the local published to site. Even a Publish All doesn’t work. When publishing to a local site happens, it is over in less than 3 seconds (Mac mini M4 Pro). Is there a log produced by Elements of the list of files published, so it can be checked? I am making this a separate thread, just to make it easier to comment on this issue as it probably got lost in the other thread? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/2 "2025-03-31T19:41:23Z")
We have an open ticket to “fix publishing” as we know there’s issues with it 😬 > [@logrunner](#): > > Is there a log produced by Elements of the list of files published, so it can be checked? I don’t think so, we have support logs, but you don’t want to be digging through those 🤔 @tpbradley any thoughts on this? ---
**Author:** ![Doobox](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/doobox/32/32373_2.png) [@Doobox](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Doobox)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/3 "2025-04-01T00:43:01Z")
May be related to some of the shipped form issues you’re encountering. The first and only time I tried the shipped form. I quickly realised that the files in the backend, from memory: rw \> elements \> email, where not being published, at least not consistently. Which led to a 404 in the console when testing the form. I could see no rhyme or reason in what triggered them to be published, but one minute a republish all files was like 60 files for example, then randomly a publish would be like 680 files (I assume thats when it decided to publish the email backend). ---
**Author:** ![logrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@logrunner](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/logrunner)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/4 "2025-04-01T12:09:43Z")
As you will be revamping Publishing, it would be useful to be able to right-click on the Elements icon in the dock and click Publish to repeat the last publish. Maybe, the presence (or not) of a publish dock menu item to be set in settings. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PMUK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7993a0/32.png) [@PMUK](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/PMUK)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/5 "2025-04-01T14:59:16Z")
I remember one of your videos or comments in my distant mind that said something about Chillidog, as I have used them for years and Greg and team are brilliant is there something in the works bout publishing and Chillidog? ---
**Author:** ![barchard](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/barchard/32/2292_2.png) [@barchard](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/barchard)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/6 "2025-04-02T14:08:24Z")
Obviously we will help make sure publishing with [Chillidog Hosting](https://chillidoghosting.com) and Elements is as smooth as butter 🧈 @dan just let me know if I can be of any assistance here! Thanks Greg ---
**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/7 "2025-04-02T14:25:14Z")
Thanks Greg, will do! ---
**Author:** ![logrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@logrunner](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/logrunner)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/8 "2025-04-02T14:32:59Z")
The issue I raised in post one of this thread is much more basic than working with a reliable host. At the moment, I am just publishing (or not 😉 ) to local files to be used with Mamp Pro / ServBay. The issue is that Elements isn’t recognising that some files have changed and isn’t publishing them to the local folders. Even a “Publish All” is working in “Publish Some” mode. 😐 It make testing a bit of a frustrating experience. 😉 The issue is understood by @dan and team and it is on their list to fix. I was just flagging it up as I am hoping it will be sooner rather than later. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![logrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@logrunner](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/logrunner)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/9 "2025-04-18T15:23:19Z")
Just a bit more input on this. It seems like that if you first launch Elements and do a publish, **all** of the files in the **shared** \> **assets** folder are published, regardless as to whether you changed them or not. If, still within the same Elements session, you make any changes to any of the files in the **shared** \> **assets** folder and then do a publish, these changed files aren’t published. I was trying to train myself (and failing 😉 ) to remember to do a manual copy after a publish if I had altered any of these files. I have now found that the quickest way is to close down Elements and then restart it, open the project and then do a publish and all is good. 🙂 Thought this info might help with the problem resolution? ---
**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/elements-publishing-unreliable/47010/10 "2025-04-18T17:53:16Z")
Yes, I’ve noticed this too. But don’t worry, although Publishing is a little wonky at the moment, it is high on the list to fix up and resolve these outstanding issues. Hang in there!