# Foundry or Foundation, what is more complete and future proof? **URL:** \ **Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\ **Created:** [February 27, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801 "2021-02-27T06:52:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kunstmaler](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/kunstmaler/32/934_2.png) [@Kunstmaler](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Kunstmaler)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/42 "2021-04-28T10:49:33Z")
The loading time of your website is not as good as it should be. [https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?hl=de&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmonnee.in&tab=desktop](https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?hl=de&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmonnee.in&tab=desktop) ---
**Author:** ![fmonnee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@fmonnee](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fmonnee)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/43 "2021-04-28T10:52:17Z")
Thanks that is interesting! could this be because of the formloom stack or the in total 4 slider stacks, or maybe the size of the images? I keep learning! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Kunstmaler](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/kunstmaler/32/934_2.png) [@Kunstmaler](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Kunstmaler)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/44 "2021-04-28T10:52:33Z")
PageSpeed Insights: [PageSpeed Insights](https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?hl=de&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkgerman.biz&tab=mobile) ---
**Author:** ![fmonnee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@fmonnee](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fmonnee)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/45 "2021-04-28T11:04:16Z")
Thanks again! I have used png files, would jpg files be a better option? ---
**Author:** ![pmjd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/pmjd/32/18671_2.png) [@pmjd](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/pmjd)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/46 "2021-04-28T11:34:43Z")
PNG files are only needed when you have a transparent background, otherwise JPG are better. However, you need to do a lot of image optimisation work on your site, also look in to lazy loading options too. Joe has a really good video about WebP (a newer and more efficient image format) and images in Foundation 6, well worth a watch [How to use WEBP images for Faster Websites - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6FVCFdZcio) ---
**Author:** ![Kunstmaler](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/kunstmaler/32/934_2.png) [@Kunstmaler](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Kunstmaler)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/47 "2021-04-28T11:53:36Z")
The file size for images should be as small as possible. jpg images are usually always better than png images. PNG only under certain circumstances, for example when a transparent area is desired. Besides the file size, the image size is of course also important. Large images only if necessary. Excuse my bad English, this is not my language. @pmjd WebP Images? I’m not sure if this is supported by all browsers? jpg images can be downsampled well with the right tools without any loss of quality. ---
**Author:** ![Kunstmaler](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/kunstmaler/32/934_2.png) [@Kunstmaler](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Kunstmaler)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/48 "2021-04-28T11:58:28Z")
For downsampling jpg images I use the tool: [https://pichiapp.com](https://pichiapp.com) or [Optimage for Mac: Free Download + Review [Latest Version]](https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/58733/optimage) However, there are also numerous free online tools. ---
**Author:** ![fmonnee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@fmonnee](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fmonnee)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/49 "2021-04-28T12:25:34Z")
> [@pmjd](#): > > How to use WEBP images for Faster Websites - YouTube Thanks! watching it now! ---
**Author:** ![pmjd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/pmjd/32/18671_2.png) [@pmjd](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/pmjd)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/50 "2021-04-28T13:39:09Z")
WebP isn’t supported by older versions of Safari (I can attest to that on my iPhone 6 and 2011 MacBook Pro) but is well supported by almost all modern browsers. So having a fallback option to png/jpg is a good option. The video I linked to covers how to use WebP with a fallback in Foundation 6. There is [Shakingthehabituals’ Srcerer stack(s)](https://shakingthehabitual.com/stacks/srcerer/), which includes a WebP stack with 1X and 2X WebP support and 1X 2X fallback. WillWoodgate also has a free [WebPStack](https://stacks4stacks.com/webpstack/) that does the same. ---
**Author:** ![MartWaring](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/martwaring/32/834_2.png) [@MartWaring](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MartWaring)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/51 "2021-04-28T17:09:01Z")
The live stream tutorials work quite well when accompanied by demo project files. The latest release of updates to the swatch pack shows exactly what each swatch does in a RW project so that you can see the workings. You don’t get that with a written document. I’ve started to keep my own demo project file going with multiple sections, whenever I find out how to build something interesting that I might use again. That way building a new site often just starts with a copy/paste job and a bit of tweaking. The other thing about the live stream is that it keeps things fresh and interesting as nearly every week there is something new to learn. ---
**Author:** ![joeworkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/joeworkman/32/23780_2.png) [@joeworkman](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/joeworkman)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/52 "2021-04-28T20:27:52Z")
Since this thread has been re-opened, I should add that since this post was created, Foundation 6 has a completely new demo website that should serve as pretty good documentation since I also provide you with the RW project file used to generate the demos. Home: [https://www.foundationstacks.com/](https://www.foundationstacks.com/) Demos: [Demo | Foundation 6 Stacks for RapidWeaver](https://www.foundationstacks.com/demo/) ---
**Author:** ![artista](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71c47a/32.png) [@artista](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/artista)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/53 "2021-04-28T20:50:14Z")
Very nice Joe. Great Demo site. ---
**Author:** ![fmonnee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@fmonnee](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fmonnee)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/54 "2021-04-30T13:37:27Z")
Thanks Joe and I reading it. Today when changing all my image from jpg to jp2 & .webp I found out that when publishing my website the images are all converted into .png… Is this something in Foundation or Rapidweaver, I have added the image and retina boxes… regarding my website [https://monnee.in](https://monnee.in) Or do I need to save them at another place? ---
**Author:** ![joeworkman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/joeworkman/32/23780_2.png) [@joeworkman](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/joeworkman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/55 "2021-04-30T15:18:26Z")
Did you watch my live stream on Webp? I talk about this exact topic You may want to start a new thread about this since it’s not really related. ---
**Author:** ![fmonnee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@fmonnee](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fmonnee)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/56 "2021-04-30T15:22:44Z")
Thanks Joe, will do and watch you YouTube video again, would not be surprised I missed out a few things here ---
**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/57 "2021-05-05T15:23:40Z")
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**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2026, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry-or-foundation-what-is-more-complete-and-future-proof/37801/58 "2026-08-12T20:32:47Z")
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