# Foundry3 is not available

**URL:** <https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553>\
**Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\
**Created:** [December 9, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553 "2024-12-09T11:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Armin1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Armin1](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Armin1)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553/1 "2024-12-09T11:39:16Z")

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Foundry3 is no longer available. Which system would you convert your websites to, “Foundation” or something else?

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**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553/2 "2024-12-09T11:48:55Z")

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Hey there! 😊 Since Foundry is no longer available, you’re probably weighing a few options. _Foundation_ is certainly a framework you could look at…

That said, if you’re open to exploring something new, you might want to take a peek at **Elements**. It’s currently in beta, but it’s shaping up to be a powerful and intuitive WYSIWYG builder. It’s designed with a modern approach and might be just what you’re looking for. Plus, since it’s being actively developed, there’s lots of exciting potential ahead! 🚀

There’s plenty of videos about [RapidWeaver Elements](https://www.youtube.com/@realmacsoftware) on YouTube (we record at least 1 a week), so if you want to get a good idea of where it’s at, [this video from a few weeks back](https://youtu.be/HML3sxIX4ik?si=83S7oMaD0rqWdFR1) is a good place to start.

It’s always a good idea to experiment and see what feels right for your workflow. Whichever path you choose, happy building, and feel free to ask if you need more guidance! 😊

_P.S. If you’d like to purchase the Elements beta, let me know an I can send you the details via email._

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**Author:** ![Mathew](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/mathew/32/2771_2.png) [@Mathew](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Mathew)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553/3 "2024-12-09T12:01:33Z")

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I’m assuming you already have Foundry 3. If not … then that’s another story.

Websites made with Foundry 3 do, and will work, perfectly fine moving forward. New or need-to-be revamped websites can still be done in Foundry 3 as well. To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t convert right now. Foundry 3 still works perfectly fine. I’m guessing Foundry 3 + RW Classic will be good for another 3-to-5 years for creation and editing … most likely up to 5 years.

The problem with “switching” is it’s very hard to know which products will last. Some products being promoted may last fewer than 5 years! We don’t have enough information/data to make a truly informed decision.

Maybe Elements will work out fine (maybe not). Presumably RW Classic will last (especially if Elements doesn’t). There’s the upcoming Stacks Pro. There’s Blocs 6 that was just released. And other options.

Put simply, I would NOT convert at this time.

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**Author:** ![Pitti\_Uomo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/pitti_uomo/32/1689_2.png) [@Pitti\_Uomo](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Pitti_Uomo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553/4 "2025-11-04T18:36:35Z")

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I won’t switch to a subscription model, doesn’t make sense for me.

I’ll stick with Rapidweaver/Foundry until it stops working then I’ll see

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**Author:** ![Heroic\_Nonsense](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/heroic_nonsense/32/20666_2.png) [@Heroic\_Nonsense](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Heroic_Nonsense)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/foundry3-is-not-available/45553/5 "2025-11-05T06:56:51Z")

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Elements is not a subscription model (Realmac should really change that wording on their website - it’s confusing @dan).

What Elements is, is a one-off purchase including 12 months of updates. If you desire more updates, you’ll need to purchase another year of updates for a fee. This goes on ad infinitum, until you decide to stop paying.

**If you don’t pay for the/another extra year, Elements will continue to work perfectly fine.** You just won’t get the latest features.

Think of it as “extended warranty”.

This is different to how, say, Microsoft 365 or Adobe Creative Ripoff Cloud works - those products actually do stop working if you stop paying, and are therefor true subscriptions.

Cheers,  
Erwin
