# How much is your SSL costing you? **URL:** \ **Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\ **Created:** [May 24, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346 "2018-05-24T12:16:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/41 "2018-06-17T12:42:20Z")
CloudFlare is kinda secure; it does get you out of the browser warning. If you’re wanting to ensure your data is not being intercepted by others, then you should have a certificate on the server. There are tons of good hosting companies that offer free certificates, by not changing hosts you’re letting them get away with charging for them. Even if you’re using CloudFlare for caching, I would still want to have a certificate on my server to make the SSL complete. ---
**Author:** ![tomnittner](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/tomnittner/32/10116_2.png) [@tomnittner](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/tomnittner)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/42 "2018-06-17T16:59:39Z")
either cloudflare is down or something else is wrong with the site. i’ve trying since friday to get one of my sites registered, but no dice! it stops after i select the plan i want to use (mind you i tried them all…) and never goes on!!! greetings, tomas ---
**Author:** ![Bentley](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bentley/32/7402_2.png) [@Bentley](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Bentley)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/43 "2018-06-17T18:50:40Z")
Do you change the DNS records at where you host the site or where the Domain is registered? ---
**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/44 "2018-06-17T19:08:05Z")
The official domain registrar. See step 2 here: [https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/205195708-Step-3-Change-your-domain-name-servers-to-Cloudflare#step2](https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/205195708-Step-3-Change-your-domain-name-servers-to-Cloudflare#step2) ---
**Author:** ![Gabrielle](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/gabrielle/32/183_2.png) [@Gabrielle](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Gabrielle)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/45 "2018-06-19T12:49:29Z")
Ok so just to clarify, the Cloudflare solves the warning on the browser but doesn’t ACTUALLY ensure that the data transmitted is secure? What’s the point of that? ---
**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/46 "2018-06-19T13:17:57Z")
The likelihood that someone is intercepting packets of traffic between CloudFlare and your server isn’t as likely to happen as between the end user and CloudFlare. I lot more sniffing and snooping going on at the users end(WiFi, ISP) of the Internet than within the backend(server to server). [https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170416-What-do-the-SSL-options-mean-](https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170416-What-do-the-SSL-options-mean-) ---
**Author:** ![Gabrielle](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/gabrielle/32/183_2.png) [@Gabrielle](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Gabrielle)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/47 "2018-06-19T14:04:56Z")
But basically shared certificates do NOT mean that your site is in fact secure. What a pain in the derriere. ---
**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/48 "2018-06-19T14:29:47Z")
It’s not the “shared certificate” that makes the site secure or not. It’s the fact that the secure path only goes so far. I recommend CloudFlare all the time, mainly for the performance boost, but I recommend folks go with a hosting company that offers Let’s Encrypt certificates for free. I know you might have an annual contract, but I would at least let your hosting company know you going to leave them if they don’t start offering them. Enough folks tell them that or leave and go elsewhere they’ll change or go under. In the mean time CloudFlare SSL will be better than none. CloudFlare also offers a origin certificate, or you can put a self signed certificate on your host. That would make the complete path secure. You would have to have access,and a bit of technical knowledge to do this. > **[Introducing CloudFlare Origin CA](https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-ca-encryption-origin/)** > > Faster, more secure alternative to public CA certificates for your CloudFlare-fronted servers. Extraneous overhead removed to optimize performance. ---
**Author:** ![Gabrielle](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/gabrielle/32/183_2.png) [@Gabrielle](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Gabrielle)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/49 "2018-06-19T16:20:43Z")
Hi Doug, thank you so much for all of the great advice :-). I’ve already spent way too much time on this subject and can’t cope with any more techno stuff to learn so I think I’m going to recommend switching hosters over to Chillidog as he offers free SSL. Thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![Nostrildomus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/nostrildomus/32/8019_2.png) [@Nostrildomus](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Nostrildomus)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/50 "2018-06-19T20:40:52Z")
You will not be disappointed - @barchard at Chilidog is AWESOME ! ---
**Author:** ![barchard](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/barchard/32/2292_2.png) [@barchard](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/barchard)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/51 "2018-06-19T22:51:56Z")
🤘thanks for the kind words 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gabrielle](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/gabrielle/32/183_2.png) [@Gabrielle](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Gabrielle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/52 "2018-06-20T08:44:53Z")
Yup I know this to be true. :-)) ---
**Author:** ![bradf1405](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bradf1405/32/9037_2.png) [@bradf1405](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bradf1405)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/53 "2018-06-21T02:47:00Z")
Except for the Chillidog server downtimes! That is always very disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![PaulRussam](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/paulrussam/32/198_2.png) [@PaulRussam](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/PaulRussam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/54 "2018-06-22T19:30:47Z")
I’ve got 5 or more domains with multiple subdomains on each with Chillidog and never experienced any problems whatsoever, even when Greg changed servers. You must be really unlucky Brad as all you seem to do is complain about the poor service others offer. ---
**Author:** ![monica](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/monica/32/17454_2.png) [@monica](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/monica)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/55 "2018-06-22T22:10:24Z")
Chillidog are the best! offers free SSL. ---
**Author:** ![barchard](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/barchard/32/2292_2.png) [@barchard](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/barchard)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/56 "2018-06-23T00:32:22Z")
Sorry you’re having connection issues. To be honest, I’m not sure what downtime you’re referring to. Since I started [this status page](https://status.chillidoghosting.com/778885995) at the end of March, the shared server has registered 3 minutes of downtime. If anyone has connection issues to my server, I ask them to reach out. I’m more than happy to help investigate. -Greg ---
**Author:** ![klaatu](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/klaatu/32/8289_2.png) [@klaatu](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/57 "2018-06-23T05:30:34Z")
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. ---
**Author:** ![peterdanckwerts](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/peterdanckwerts/32/22443_2.png) [@peterdanckwerts](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/peterdanckwerts)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/58 "2018-06-23T09:05:12Z")
I have two hosting companies at the moment. One (A2 Hosting) offers free SSL and the other (Idaq) doesn’t. I don’t like to pay for it but I’ve been with Idaq for several decades and they’ve given me a very good service so I’m no going to dump them. I can live with an extra £30 a year. However, I did leave UK2 which I’d been with for even longer. They started charging for standard mail accounts AND they charged for SSL. I had over 20 domains with them and I just couldn’t afford it. ---
**Author:** ![Gabrielle](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/gabrielle/32/183_2.png) [@Gabrielle](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Gabrielle)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/59 "2018-06-23T18:55:38Z")
Bradf1405 do you not mind that your sites aren’t so secure using Cloudflare alone? ---
**Author:** ![bradf1405](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bradf1405/32/9037_2.png) [@bradf1405](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bradf1405)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346/60 "2018-06-24T03:49:19Z")
**Bewarned** they are SELF SIGNED SSL certificates. Never as good as the paid ones. [Previous page](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/how-much-is-your-ssl-costing-you/20346.md?page=4)