# Loghound went out of business **URL:** \ **Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\ **Created:** [February 23, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538 "2016-02-23T15:09:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MarkSealey](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/marksealey/32/22895_2.png) [@MarkSealey](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MarkSealey)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/22 "2016-02-25T21:14:09Z")
+1 for that - or water for the teetotallers! > [@caffeineinjection](#): > > Devs like Will, who offer excellent support, should set up a “buy me a beer” button on their sites, so those of use who appreciate the help can send them a few quid from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![jabostick](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/jabostick/32/1760_2.png) [@jabostick](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/jabostick)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/23 "2016-02-25T21:29:06Z")
Ask and ye shall receive 😉 [https://stacks4stacks.com/contribute/](https://stacks4stacks.com/contribute/) ---
**Author:** ![ryanbsmith](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/ryanbsmith/32/17448_2.png) [@ryanbsmith](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/ryanbsmith)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/25 "2016-02-27T02:42:51Z")
This is sad news and a great loss for the RapidWeaver community. I’ve also been using John’s plugins for as long as I can remember – maybe 8 or 9 years? Like @willwood , PlusKit and Sitemap+ have often been the first pages I’ve added to a project. I hope that someone will be able to take over and continue to develop these plugins. John, if you happen to read this, thanks for your contributions to the RapidWeaver community, and I wish you all the best in whatever comes next! -Ryan ---
**Author:** ![swilliam](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/swilliam/32/14799_2.png) [@swilliam](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/swilliam)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/26 "2016-02-27T02:47:14Z")
A loss for sure, I haven’t used plus kit for quite a while but site map is on every site I build. ---
**Author:** ![solosaint](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/solosaint/32/585_2.png) [@solosaint](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/solosaint)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/27 "2016-03-02T19:16:43Z")
I too used Sitemap Plus for all my projects… I had every one of his plug-ins too. Thanks John for awesome work to our RW community! ---
**Author:** ![eagerweaver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/eagerweaver/32/2840_2.png) [@eagerweaver](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/eagerweaver)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/28 "2016-03-04T02:00:51Z")
No, no, no! I use Sitemap + for all my clients’ sites! No more Plus Kit?! No more Rapidblog?! 😭 And don’t anyone make like Tom Hanks and tell me there’s “No crying in web design!” Well, I hope you’re moving on to better things, John. Best of luck! And I echo those who ask “Will someone please take over Loghound?” Joe Workman? Like you did with El-Stack-O? ---
**Author:** ![zeebe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/zeebe/32/22007_2.png) [@zeebe](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/zeebe)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/29 "2016-03-04T04:28:09Z")
Hey guys, if you read the post John made on his page, he was deciding what to do with them. Now, I know who has got them, and I can not WAIT to see what they do with these!! It will be awesome. Oh, don’t ask. Not going to tell you who it is. 😁 I am going to miss John as well. I remember chatting with him a lot on Twitter a while ago, specifically about baseball. God speed John!! ---
**Author:** ![eagerweaver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/eagerweaver/32/2840_2.png) [@eagerweaver](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/eagerweaver)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/30 "2016-03-04T04:34:47Z")
@zeebe, I just got a notice from Relamac and clicked to see what you posted. Now I’m gonna have a hard time sleeping thinking who got them, since you WON’T tell! I guess I’ll have to wait. ---
**Author:** ![tappo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@tappo](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/tappo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/31 "2016-03-04T06:28:09Z")
> [@eagerweaver](#): > > And I echo those who ask “Will someone please take over Loghound?” Joe Workman? Like you did with El-Stack-O? You have not mentioned the best example. Joe simply offered to customers of El-stacko to buy some of its stacks at a discount. The original stacks disappeared and so the help and tutorials … ---
**Author:** ![zeebe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/zeebe/32/22007_2.png) [@zeebe](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/zeebe)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/32 "2016-03-04T13:48:51Z")
That is mainly because he had stacks that did the same thing. The tutorials where on the original site and we never got that info, so that was not our fault. ---
**Author:** ![eagerweaver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/eagerweaver/32/2840_2.png) [@eagerweaver](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/eagerweaver)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/33 "2016-03-04T18:10:30Z")
@tappo, Let me be a verbose parrot to @zeebe 's clarification (thanks, @zeebe)… I don’t mean that Joe Workman should take over the Loghound company but am wondering/wishing if he could buy the add-ons, develop them however he wishes, and support them. I certainly did not mean that Joe had taken over the entire El-Stack-O outfit. But I am grateful he offered some of the stacks I was using. If a company folds up, then the products’ support and development would end and the website would close. So, the product customer/user has no to choice but to look for alternatives. Joe gave me and others the alternative to get stacks with similar (and improved) functionality as El-Stack-O’s at a discounted cost. Great! If Joe did not do that, then I would have had to look for replacement products from other developers at full price. Joe had nothing to do with the fact that El-Stack-O’s original stacks and tutorials disappeared. El Presidente simply closed up shop. ---
**Author:** ![zeebe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/zeebe/32/22007_2.png) [@zeebe](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/zeebe)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/34 "2016-03-04T21:47:51Z")
Get the news here!! > [@A new life for LogHound plugins](http://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/a-new-life-for-loghound-plugins/5687/2): > > FANTASTIC NEWS!! Could NOT be in better hands! I’m so happy! This is the BEST POSSIBLE news for Weavers! Thank you @Isaiah ---
**Author:** ![tappo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@tappo](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/tappo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/35 "2016-03-05T08:46:54Z")
@eagerweaver it is not all as you say … actually it was a sad history … However, I am happy that Isaiah has taken over Loghound, he is undoubtedly the most suitable to carry on John’s work, (I hope he finds time to update all plugins). Joe remains my favorite stacks developer (I have about 80 stacks from him). To Isaiah the best wishes for the further task it has taken! ---
**Author:** ![gbomb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/gbomb/32/2869_2.png) [@gbomb](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/gbomb)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/36 "2016-03-06T03:10:27Z")
I’ve been using Rapidblog and Pluskit for years. They are soooo awesome and so reliable. Whenever I needed support, it was promptly given. So I have no complaints about John or Loghound. I’m just a bit sad that we’ve come to the end of the road. That said, the breaking of my Rapidblog integration to my Rapidweaver site is KILLING my business right now. I’m in between jobs and use my blog as writing examples to prospective employers and clients. After stressing about it for a few days, I thought about dropping RW altogether and going on to WP. And then I came to my senses. The reason I use Rapidblog is because I believe it is a product used by and developed by a community of small businesses, professionals and entrepreneurs like myself. So while I really wish Loghound was still up and running, well I accept that that they closed shop even though I don’t like it. I came here today and created an account to find a solution. I’m sooooo glad I found this thread. I think I can hang on for awhile until the Rapidblog plugin gets an update. Thanks for the great news and THANK YOU ISAIAH FOR SAVING MY SITE! ---
**Author:** ![manofdogz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/manofdogz/32/26314_2.png) [@manofdogz](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/manofdogz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/37 "2016-03-06T12:27:53Z")
I have used loghound software in 40+ projects so very sad to hear this. Genuinely useful and powerful plug-ins. Many thanks John for your fantastic work over the years and great news that YourHead are taking the portfolio on-board ---
**Author:** ![Jody](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/jody/32/417_2.png) [@Jody](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Jody)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538/38 "2016-03-07T19:00:08Z")
This is unfortunate, Loghound’s stacks were a staple part of many RW projects through the years. I wish John all the best and do hope all is well with him. So, if we need to import a Weaverpix page into the main or extra content of a theme, or a subscription form into the sidebar, what do we switch to? Ah, just saw the bit that Isaiah is taking over - wonderful! Glad to see these essential and very useful stacks in good hands. I think they are going to have a great future, thanks Isaiah! [Previous page](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/loghound-went-out-of-business/5538.md?page=1)