# Menu and sub menus question **URL:** \ **Category:** Elements\ **Created:** [August 4, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460 "2025-08-04T19:03:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jwDave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/jwdave/32/31841_2.png) [@jwDave](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/jwDave)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460/1 "2025-08-04T19:03:04Z")
I am trying to create a menu item for sub pages, I do not want the main heading to be associated with a page, so clicking on the main menu item does nothing, only the sub pages work. Is this trivial? sorry if so but I have tried… ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/ben/32/28488_2.png) [@ben](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460/2 "2025-08-04T19:16:29Z")
You can create a Folder and place the sub pages inside that folder. This will give you a non-linked top level menu item. Hope that helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jwDave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/jwdave/32/31841_2.png) [@jwDave](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/jwDave)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460/3 "2025-08-04T19:29:34Z")
Ah! OK thanks Ben, ever attentive and helpful. ---
**Author:** ![AnejoKid](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/anejokid/32/31383_2.png) [@AnejoKid](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/AnejoKid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460/4 "2025-10-06T18:10:54Z")
Following up on this post, if I had a folder with 3 menus within it (Sub-menus), can I get the menu to display in expanded mode? Currently everything appears to be collapsed. Also, can the submenu indicator (the downward arrow) can this be moved next to the folder text? Right now it is displayed at the far right-side of the menu. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/ben/32/28488_2.png) [@ben](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460/5 "2025-10-07T06:52:08Z")
> [@AnejoKid](#): > > can I get the menu to display in expanded mode? We don’t have an option to expand the menus by default on page load. > [@AnejoKid](#): > > can the submenu indicator (the downward arrow) can this be moved next to the folder text? Right now it is displayed at the far right-side of the menu. Yes, you can use the “Placement” setting in the SVG Icon control group: ![CleanShot 2025-10-07 at 08.50.51@2x](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/8/9/891c0ec20a5f4f7f42974123e1b8a30303c5cb3e.png) Hope that helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AnejoKid](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/anejokid/32/31383_2.png) [@AnejoKid](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/AnejoKid)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/menu-and-sub-menus-question/49460/6 "2025-10-07T23:54:58Z")
Thank you for the response, but that didn’t really answer what I was looking for. I am using Elements and the menu displays like this. ![Menu](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/9/c/9ccf84e763bf90bdbd087e90b71be49796161cb9.png) I would like to move the menu carrot from the right side of the screen closer to where the wording/text is. Thank you