# Outdated add-ons, Bug Sur **URL:** \ **Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\ **Created:** [December 29, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470 "2020-12-29T23:46:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MarkSealey](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/marksealey/32/22895_2.png) [@MarkSealey](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MarkSealey)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/1 "2020-12-29T23:46:12Z")
New machine; macOS 11.1 Although I’ve moved the files shown in this screengrab to a folder in ~/Library/Application Support/RapidWeaver and **zipped it** so that - by my reckoning - none of these should appear as failing when I launch _RW 8.7_, I’m still seeing the message. ![Screen Shot 2020-12-29 at 14.23.57](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/c/d/cd580f80f919a15279cb53cfb78aaf28071cb4a8.png) Where could that be from, please? TIA! ---
**Author:** ![pmjd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/pmjd/32/18671_2.png) [@pmjd](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/pmjd)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/2 "2020-12-30T02:24:17Z")
In the location you mention I also find RW related plugins BUT if I launch RW 8.7 and select the option to Reveal in Finder (via Preferences) I get a different location in ~Library/Group Containers/_random letters_.com.realmacsoftware.rapidweaver. Maybe worth a look in your Group Containers folder? ---
**Author:** ![MarkSealey](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/marksealey/32/22895_2.png) [@MarkSealey](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MarkSealey)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/3 "2020-12-30T03:10:26Z")
Good thinking, Paul; thanks! I did find one and put it in the removed folder, which I then re-zipped. Nothing else at all, though! I then looked throughout my ~/Library - e.g. Containers. Nothing. Then I searched with Spotlight for each of the rest in turn. Nothing. _RW_ still thinks it has access to nine plugins, none of which is on my hard drive! I did use _Migration Assistant_ to bring my Account over from my old machine. Could there be a Plist somewhere which is tricking _RW_? ---
**Author:** ![robbeattie](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/robbeattie/32/78_2.png) [@robbeattie](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/robbeattie)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/4 "2020-12-31T05:34:55Z")
Might be worth asking @yabdab about the two 'Loom plugins? ---
**Author:** ![yabdab](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/yabdab/32/26154_2.png) [@yabdab](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/yabdab)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/5 "2020-12-31T10:57:30Z")
Dateloom and Payloom have not been developed or sold for several years now. Neither will work on systems higher than 10.14 ---
**Author:** ![MarkSealey](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/marksealey/32/22895_2.png) [@MarkSealey](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MarkSealey)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/6 "2020-12-31T19:45:10Z")
Thanks, Mike! That’s what I thought. So the obvious thing for me to do was what (I think!) I have: removed both those (and all the others which persist on showing up when I launch _RW_) from ~/Library/Application Support/RapidWeaver, where I have all my addons (which _RW_ otherwise recognizes as I’d expect). ![No Date or Pay Loom](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/a/1/a1e5bfef8817b34980b44f2216bc58f0093cc1a1.png) Definitely not there - nor apparently (according to Spotlight) on this Mac at all. How could _RW_ nevertheless be warning me about them? TIA! ---
**Author:** ![teefers](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/teefers/32/8173_2.png) [@teefers](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/teefers)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/7 "2020-12-31T20:05:14Z")
To my knowledge, There is no plist or anything that RapidWeaver uses to keep track of plugins. It is simply the location (that you can set) for the plugins folder. It then “Builds” the plugins on the fly at launch. If you disable a plugin, it moves the plugin to a folder called `Plugins Disabled`. So what I suspect is RW is pointing to a different location than you think for the addons folder. If you close RW down and reopen with the option key, you can disable all 3rd party plugins and get RW launched. Then I’d go to the addons manager and Reveal in Finder and check what is there. ![2020-12-31_12-54-52](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/4/5/45ec8ab84c03165d9eda7c38d8077c8d13b4288c.png) ![2020-12-31_12-55-37](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/b/9/b982b2327a0bfe60afbdfb1b427ba8db4302af7a.png) ---
**Author:** ![MarkSealey](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/marksealey/32/22895_2.png) [@MarkSealey](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MarkSealey)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/8 "2020-12-31T20:37:40Z")
Hello Doug; thanks so much for your detailed and helpful reply! I wasn’t aware of Option+launch. I did just what you suggested, though. The attached graphic (which I grabbed by positioning the other windows next to/to the right of my OP here above with that list) says it all, alas ☹ . ![RW Addons location](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/realmacsoftware1/original/3X/c/d/cd3438d9aaba8586f2fe1a55b7b7958ab212d765.jpeg) I sorted everything in the directory which _RW_ is pointing to according to ‘Reveal in Finder’. ‘L’ (for _LockDown_) and ‘M’ (for _MetaMate_) are in view in the list of files. They’re just not there. I did look in ‘Plugins Disabled’: nothing! How odd! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/system/32/25301_2.png) [@system](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/outdated-add-ons-bug-sur/36470/9 "2021-01-31T06:37:43Z")
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