# RapidWeaver - native CMS?

**URL:** <https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708>\
**Category:** RapidWeaver Classic\
**Created:** [June 15, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708 "2017-06-15T20:36:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/1 "2017-06-15T20:36:19Z")

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Having bought two CMS plugins for RW (Dropkick CMS and EditsPRO), I’m wondering why at this point in RW development, this functionality doesn’t already ship with the program. WordPress and the other CMS have it - a big reason to choose them over RW when it comes to making sites for clients that may need to make edits (change prices in a menu for example). Dropkick didn’t work for me because the .htaccess rewrite conflicted with the shopping cart program, and EditsPRO conflicts with the MP3 player. :-/

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**Author:** ![Flash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f475e1/32.png) [@Flash](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Flash)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/2 "2017-06-15T21:26:03Z")

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A lot of us have been pushing for it for years and years. They just never develop it. Don’t know why…

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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/3 "2017-06-15T23:47:01Z")

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Thanks Flash. I just made my own CMS using WordPress as the back end - here are the steps for anybody interested:

Install WordPress -\>  
wp-config to get DB credentials -\>  
wp\_posts is the field that has the data -\>  
paste an include to your script (Perl, PHP etc) in RapidWeaver where you want the editable text -\>  
give client the WordPress login/pass and page they can edit.

Done!

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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/4 "2017-06-16T03:29:51Z")

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Example includes:

.shtml  
\<!–#include virtual="/includes/example.pl" --\>

.php  
\<?php require ‘/includes/example.php’ ; ?\>

Did I mention this CMS is FREE?!!

- No licenses
- No subscriptions
- Use on as many sites as you want!

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**Author:** ![devananda](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/devananda/32/13413_2.png) [@devananda](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/devananda)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/5 "2017-06-16T03:52:47Z")

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wow! Again? Can you clarify what you are doing here? I mean, install wordpress on the same domain as the rapidweaver site?

so pastes this include code on the RW PAGE (not general code settings for entire site?)

then add a text stack? Then the client can login?

Thanks for your support.

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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/6 "2017-06-16T04:04:08Z")

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Hi Dominick,  
This is a NO STACK solution. 🙂  
Just grab the data from the WordPress DB in MySQL and paste the include calls in your RapidWeaver site wherever you want.

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**Author:** ![instacks](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/instacks/32/23339_2.png) [@instacks](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/instacks)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/7 "2017-06-16T05:29:21Z")

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> [@bobafifi](#):
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> Did I mention this CMS is FREE?!!

Did you mention you still use bloody WP?

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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/8 "2017-06-16T05:37:52Z")

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Hi Jannis,  
I like WordPress, so what? But if you don’t, you can go direct to MySQL or use some other CMS for the back end. WordPress is not required.

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**Author:** ![thang](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/thang/32/303_2.png) [@thang](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/thang)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/10 "2017-06-16T08:20:27Z")

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I agree Steve. And imagine the amount of support requests RMS would get for a built-in CMS.

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**Author:** ![webdeer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/webdeer/32/5299_2.png) [@webdeer](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/webdeer)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/11 "2017-06-16T08:35:02Z")

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There is no reason why adding CMS hooks or capability should end up in a lot of support needed - IF implemented well.

E.g. Blocs App has inbuilt support for 4 CMS solutions baked into it and is created and maintained by just one developer.

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**Author:** ![thang](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/thang/32/303_2.png) [@thang](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/thang)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/12 "2017-06-16T08:50:45Z")

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Fair enough. I’m just going on the amount of support requests we see here for RW as it is now, without a CMS.

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**Author:** ![webdeer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/webdeer/32/5299_2.png) [@webdeer](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/webdeer)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/14 "2017-06-16T11:12:54Z")

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> [@SteveB](#):
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> I’m put off some CMS packages due to the complexity of getting them to work within RW correctly.

Exactly. Imagine a RW with, for example, a PulseCMS or OctoberCMS text or image function where all the configuration is taken care of within RW. You as the user, just drag the CMS text or image box.

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**Author:** ![instacks](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/instacks/32/23339_2.png) [@instacks](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/instacks)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/15 "2017-06-16T12:36:40Z")

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The next Pulse CMS integration version will be better and easier to configure.

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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/16 "2017-06-16T13:51:08Z")

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Hi Dominick,  
You don’t actually even need a DB to see how this approach works, just a text file. For example, FTP (or use cPanel) a text file to your server and then edit it online using Brackets or some other IDE.

\<?php include '/includes/example.php' ; ?\>

However, using WordPress for the back end offers many more options, especially for clients:

- Version control (if they make a mistake, they can go back to a previous revision)
- Easy to use editor
- No FTP

To preserve HTML formatting, I recommend installing the “Always Edit In HTML” plugin from the repository.

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**Author:** ![Fuellemann](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fuellemann/32/22871_2.png) [@Fuellemann](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Fuellemann)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/17 "2017-06-16T15:02:18Z")

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I am looking forward to using it. I purchased in advance, as I am convinced about the possibilities and ease-of-use.

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**Author:** ![bobafifi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/bobafifi/32/8125_2.png) [@bobafifi](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/bobafifi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/18 "2017-06-17T17:25:59Z")

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I’ve posted some demo files for the includes here:

> [@Free CMS for RapidWeaver!](http://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/free-cms-for-rapidweaver/14718):
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> This CMS uses WordPress as the back end (though you can just as easily go direct to MySQL or some other CMS) Install WordPress → wp-config.php to get DB credentials → wp\_posts is the table that has the data (view in phpMyAdmin or equivalent) → paste an include to your script (Perl, PHP etc) in RapidWeaver where you want the editable text → give client the WordPress login/pass and page URLs they can edit. Example includes: .shtml \<!–#include virtual=“/cgi-bin/example.pl” –\> .php \<?…

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**Author:** ![pixelarte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pixelarte](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/pixelarte)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/rapidweaver-native-cms/14708/19 "2017-06-18T09:07:32Z")

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I’ve used a few of the available CMS over the years including Dropkick, Armadillo, Pulse and Webyep **but in my opinion** Total CMS from Joe Workman stands head and shoulders above them all for sheer power and versatility. I know it costs more than most but it is worth every penny spent.
