Wow. That’s heavy. Because when I look at my list of pages on my menu at left in the RW page layout, I do NOT see two pages of anything.
Thank you so much. You all are being so generous with your time. I am so grateful!
I find it fascinating that I have an IP address that differs from the FTP server name, but I have had so many people at Network Solutions trying to help me (the web hosting department and the MyTime department) that this is not surprising. One of the departments told me to change the server name to a different number, but did not tell me that it would be necessary to change the IP address at the same time. Doug, I deduce from your note that they should be the same.
I just called up the Network Solutions file manager and found that that was helpful.
One aspect of this mystery that I didn’t spend much time addressing – because I thought it was completely irrelevant – I will tell you now, in case you are interested. It might be quite helpful. I think I did actually write about up higher. I know I wrote about it to one of you on this thread, but when I went to look for it and reference it I could not find it so I will repeat it here.
I always have owned the domain names MalibuVoice.org and MalibuVoice.com. When I was publishing this first for the MOSA board to view and edit and make comments, they didn’t yet know what they wanted to name the website. So, I used MalibuVoice.org on which to publish one of the preliminary versions.
When they decided on the name, they also said they wanted me to get the domain name from and publish with GoDaddy. So I got the MalibuOpenSpace name at GoDaddy and tried to publish there. In the process of making revisions before publishing at GoDaddy, I got the little notice that I should upgrade to RW7.3, which I did. Then I tried to publish at GoDaddy, but the site wouldn’t publish. When I called GoDaddy tech support and explained the situation, they were unhelpful. They tried to blame RapidWeaver because no one there ever had heard of it. I told them it was a great web creation program and many people used it, but they acted like it was some amateur upstart program and I figured they just didn’t want to be bothered. I knew it had published successfully already (and been updated many times) on the Network Solutions hosted domain name (MalibuVoice.org) even though the website was not named that, itself. So I called Network Solutions and asked them if I could have the MalibuOpenSpace.Org name POINTED TO some empty space on the MalibuVoice.org site. They said they would do this, and that I could retain the MalibuOpenSpace.Org domain name (site is actually named Malibu Open Space Alliance, (we call it MOSA), but that is too long for a domain name.
When Doug suggested I review the NetworkSolutions File Manager, I decided to see whether the OLD site (which I had been planning to take down) at MalibuVoice.org, was still up. I went there to look and – voilà! It was still there. So, that might explain why there are several different pages online. I will try to “unpublish” the site at MalibuVoice now, but I left it up for a while because it GoDaddy couldn’t publish it at all, I still wanted something for the MOSA board members to be able to refer to while I was trying to get the site published under the proper domain name.
But I will now do a screengrab of my directory on RapidWeaver’s Open Theme for the MOSA site I’ve been trying to publish on Filezilla and RapidWeaver so that you can see that there are no duplicate files there.
I don’t know why there seem to be these duplicate pages floating around out there, but I will say that when I simply tried to republish my original site (that I had published on MalibuVoice.org) at GoDaddy, and it did NOT publish there, I went back to the software and thought that maybe I had done something wrong. Usually I write the websites myself. This one was different and therefore more troublesome. These board members did not want a “written” site. All they wanted was bullet points. And the first version I did for them had been written. The order of the information they had provided seemed to flow better by explaining it differently – in a different order. When the acting president saw that it was NOT in bullet points and that I had turned her bullet points into prose, she asked that it be redone EXACTLY as it had been given to me. So, I did that. However, I had to re-order some of the pages to do that because the photos that seemed to go with one section now were on the wrong pages. This is one reason I recreated the site a few times. Once for them and a second time later, after I had published it on Network Solutions. I had inserted some pages about the biology of the bluffs with a lot of insect, animal, odd plant photos on them. At that time they were interested ONLY in facts and so the unusual formations and biology photos didn’t fit with the information they wanted to convey. I needed to remove those pages and so I put them at the end and marked them “draft” and unchecked the “publish” box at top so that they would not publish.
The reason I numbered the sections was so that I would be clear on the order in which the pages should be presented. Even though in the past I have re-ordered pages in the menu and made subdirectories by just dragging the pages where I wanted them, since 7.0 and up were new to me (I’d last worked with RW when I was using the 6.0 series) I wasn’t sure that you could still do that. People told me that the ordering of the pages was very important.
But the site seemed to publish just fine when it originally was published under MalibuVoice.org. (ALSO HOSTED BY NETWORK SOLUTIONS ON FILEZILLA) And, eventually, it published there after I got help from GoDaddy to point the site to Network Solutions. Originally, Network Solutions said they would take care of pointing the domain name there. They did not tell me I ALSO would have to call GoDaddy and have GoDaddy do that as well. Once I did that, then I could see the revised site online at Network Solutions with the proper Domain Name.
But now we have this new problem. I’m not sure which problems developed where. except for the one Doug mentions – that the IP address is different from the FTP server name. . . So, I guess I might send this whole thread to the tech department at Network Solutions to see if they are able to help organize this.
Admittedly, I am in over my head.
The thing is, Rapid WEaver does make beautiful sites and I hope it never changes. It is relatively unknown, which I love. And I also love having the software on my OWN COMPUTER AND NOT HAVING to rely on the web-creation company’s “web creation tools.” One of my initial sites, which I loved, when I first was learning to create websites, was on iWeb. I pushed the site a bit beyond the services iWeb was intended to provide, and with no real template was able to make remarkable pages. I was amazed how flexible that little program could be.
But when iWeb folded, I thought I could just transfer the sites to other hosts and continue to use their software.
NOPE.
The software stopped working almost right away and even though I had tranferred the sites, I could not update them, so they died.
When you have the creation software on your own computer you are free to move your sites.
Or, so I thought.
By now you all probably are falling asleep and nodding your heads into your screens (as I frequently do), but I thought this background might explain some of the reason for the complexity of everything. When you talk to techies at these companies, you can explain some of the history, but you don’t want to explain too much or you can just hear their eyes glaze over on the other end of the line. I felt it was best to explain what I could. Didn’t they – after all – need to know what had happened before?
Nope. They just need to deal with what is now.
So, I stopped.
Anyway. That’s the LONG of it. Not the short of it. I hope that none of this really was relevant to what we were discussing earlier because I did not want to lead anyone on a wild goose chase… didn’t want to be redundant. It all was complex enough already.
I’m a bit unsure what to do next. Dog is crying to go out, so I’m taking a 20 minute break to take her on her walk. Maybe my brain will be more clear when I get back.
I cannot tell you how grateful I am that all of you have gotten involved with this horrendous mess!!! I do need to get myself out of it.
If organization will help, I’m willing to do whatever is necessary. I hate to keep taking YOUR time because you are on a RapidWeaver site, and maybe this now is back in the court of Network Solutions and the File Manager…
At least I know where the issues are now!!! You have all been so wonderful. And ManDog – what type of “trust” is involved when it comes to having you look at the back end of the site? I appreciate your offer, just don’t realize why “trust” is an issue (that you would want to publish a Malibu site about open space? Ha, ha. I don’t think so.)
I will show you my site menu so that you can see how I thought the site was organized.
Here is the page structure of the site:
Thank you again for your time and suggestions. I am going to read them all again after I get back from the dog walk. Athena (my black German Shepherd Dog) says hello to you all and sends her thanks too.