# Shaking the Habitual leaving the Stacks ecosystem **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [October 24, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/shaking-the-habitual-leaving-the-stacks-ecosystem/51991 "2025-10-24T12:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Heroic\_Nonsense](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/heroic_nonsense/32/20666_2.png) [@Heroic\_Nonsense](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Heroic_Nonsense)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/shaking-the-habitual-leaving-the-stacks-ecosystem/51991/1 "2025-10-24T12:32:31Z")
A couple of days ago, Stuart from Shaking the Habitual (STH, a stacks developer, also known for the Source framework) **[has announced his company will end development of plugins for Stacks](https://knowledge.shakingthehabitual.com/en/article/193-stacks-store-closure)**. This also includes further development of the Source framework unfortunately. For the time being, STH’s stacks (and the Source framework) will remain available **[at a sharp discount](https://shakingthehabitual.com/stacks/all-stacks/)**, but there will be no new products for Stacks, and there will be no support in getting those stacks to run in future versions of the Stacks plugin (or the standalone Stacks app that is currently in beta). Further more, support for the STH products under Stacks 5 (the plugin) will terminate at the end of this year (2025). Stuart endeavors to fix critical issues with the stacks or Souce under the current version of the Stacks plugin, should they arise. So, to recap: - Shaking the Habitual is ending support of their products for Stacks (both the plugin and the currently-in-beta-standalone-app) - There is no support (now or in the future) to get these products to run under future versions of Stacks - Support to run the products under the current version of the Stacks plugin (v5) will end at the end of this year (2025) - The above includes the Source framework that STH publishes - All STH products are now available at a discount for those still needing any. The proceeds of these sales go to keep the support documentation pages in the air for the next year. With this announcement, the community loses one of the biggest and most influential developers. Stuart’s products - especially Source- have always been popular and they wil be missed. Cheers, Erwin ---
**Author:** ![MichaelDroste](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/michaeldroste/32/37212_2.png) [@MichaelDroste](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MichaelDroste)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/shaking-the-habitual-leaving-the-stacks-ecosystem/51991/2 "2025-10-24T15:09:04Z")
Sometimes hard to reach the end of a service… often times it drags on - hoping sales will rebound and things will recover… I try many entrepreneurial ventures- and have had to also shut down many: Last one was a little expensive: trademark, promotion, etc…. [DrosteCoffee.com](http://DrosteCoffee.com) (gone) There is NO money in music. Just isn’t any for the today’s musician. Royalties are in the fractions of a penny and sales are almost nonexistent. You have to have a tough skin and do it for fun… ---
**Author:** ![Heroic\_Nonsense](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/heroic_nonsense/32/20666_2.png) [@Heroic\_Nonsense](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/Heroic_Nonsense)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/shaking-the-habitual-leaving-the-stacks-ecosystem/51991/3 "2025-10-25T06:04:53Z")
> [@MichaelDroste](#): > > [DrosteCoffee.com](http://DrosteCoffee.com) Completely off-topic, but Droste is a **[major chocolate brand](https://www.droste.nl)** in the Netherlands. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelDroste](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/michaeldroste/32/37212_2.png) [@MichaelDroste](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/MichaelDroste)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/shaking-the-habitual-leaving-the-stacks-ecosystem/51991/4 "2025-10-25T08:05:26Z")
Yes - read here that they have fallen on hard times and might close - very sad Our family collects Droste chocolate tins and I even had some chocolate molds from the factory… > **[Droste Mold for sale | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=droste%2Bmold&_sop=12)** > > Get the best deals for Droste Mold at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! I’m German, but feel related…