# Thoughts on today's Apple Event?

**URL:** <https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [April 20, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859 "2021-04-20T20:21:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![rolisize](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/rolisize/32/430_2.png) [@rolisize](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/rolisize)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/21 "2021-04-23T14:50:08Z")

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I saw this pic and remembered your comment

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**Author:** ![fisherking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fisherking/32/16909_2.png) [@fisherking](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fisherking)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/22 "2021-04-23T14:52:43Z")

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not sure what you’re getting at; i see 2 women using new imacs.

personally, i’d probably get the ‘_conventional silver_’ one, then i’d do great work on a powerful computer. what’s wrong what that?

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**Author:** ![pmjd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/pmjd/32/18671_2.png) [@pmjd](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/pmjd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/23 "2021-04-23T15:25:20Z")

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> [@channonite](#):
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> The iPadPro with an M1 chip was a bit left-field and I still can’t quite get my head around the reasoning there, other than it being another step in the convergence of software on iPad and Mac ranges.

I guess to keep it’s “Pro” status, if it’s using the same M1 chip as the MacBook Pro and iMacs, as opposed to an improved A series chip.

@fisherking  
I don’t know about you but I’m not really able to afford the Mac I want to have, particularly with Apple’s upgrade costs for storage, which are now the only option (external drives etc. aside).

The main reason I have been able to keep my MacBook Pro 13" 2011 going is because I have been able to upgrade the memory myself, and twice I’ve upgraded the storage (larger HDD, then replaced with SSD). Those options are now pretty much impossible on the majority of Macs from…what around 2015 onwards? Except for the Mac Pro but that is a whole other level of cost.

Granted there aren’t any new storage technologies that are immediately going to replace SSDs for speed but storage needs only ever _grow_, so the lock in from Apple with size is infuriating and also not great environmentally either.

If I wanted to get a new Mac with 1 TB of storage as I have now, it would add significantly to the cost. Not everyone is in the position to afford a fully spec’d machine, unfortunately the option of _Buy Now, Upgrade Later_ is no longer there.

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**Author:** ![fisherking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fisherking/32/16909_2.png) [@fisherking](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fisherking)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/24 "2021-04-23T15:30:02Z")

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it’s easy to add an external drive (or several external drives) into one’s setup, if you find the cost prohibitive. and your needs, of course, depend on what you do.

i use my 12" macbook for affinity photo, rapidweaver, several text apps, and the usual photos and email… on my 256G SSD, i have about 160GB still available.

for pro audio people, filmmakers, pro photographers & graphics people, more space is important.

either way, this is the time we live in. so you weigh your needs vs your options, and move forward.

finally, apple is doing more in terms of environmental responsibility than ever before, so not sure what your point is there…

EDIT: when the time comes, you could check out apple’s refurbished store; and/or go for a late-model intel mac. just a thought!

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/25 "2021-04-23T15:40:10Z")

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> [@fisherking](#):
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> so not sure what your point is there…

People are just disagreeing with you, as in, they have a different opinion. I’m not sure there is much more of a point beyond that.

Personally, I wouldn’t buy a machine at over €2k that I can’t get in to if/when things need to be replaced. In fact, I wouldn’t spend any money on such a machine. It’s just that simple. You would, and that’s cool.

I’m not sure accusing people of whining is really appropriate.

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**Author:** ![pmjd](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/pmjd/32/18671_2.png) [@pmjd](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/pmjd)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/26 "2021-04-23T15:42:16Z")

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> [@fisherking](#):
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> it’s easy to add an external drive (or several external drives) into one’s setup, if you find the cost prohibitive. and your needs, of course, depend on what you do.

I did say external drives aside. If your main setup is desk bound then it’s less of an issue but lugging extra drives with you when you are out and about is not so easy.

> [@fisherking](#):
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> for pro audio people, filmmakers, pro photographers & graphics people, more space is important.

Yeah because it doesn’t matter to ordinary users, only the Pros 🙄

> [@fisherking](#):
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> finally, apple is doing more in terms of environmental responsibility than ever before, so not sure what your point is there…

Yes Apple is doing more and it deserves to be recognised but if I hadn’t been able to upgrade the storage and ram on my MacBook is would have been far from usable for a while and I would have had to get a _New_ MacBook (original MacBook Pro was 320 GB HDD storage and 4 GB RAM). The point is if you can upgrade your Mac then it will last longer.

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**Author:** ![fisherking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fisherking/32/16909_2.png) [@fisherking](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fisherking)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/27 "2021-04-23T15:42:39Z")

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i hear you, but you didn’t answer my question directly: what does an image of 2 women on new imacs mean? you seemed to be making a point, and would be grateful if you could clarify…

i guess accusing people who are whining of whining is, at most, not very nice, and will be more thoughtful in the future.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/28 "2021-04-23T15:44:29Z")

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> [@fisherking](#):
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> what does an image of 2 women on new imacs mean? you seemed to be making a point, and would be grateful if you could clarify…

You seem to be getting confused.

> [@fisherking](#):
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> i guess accusing people who are whining of whining is, at most, not very nice, and will be more thoughtful in the future.

It’s just plain rude and ignorant.

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**Author:** ![fisherking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fisherking/32/16909_2.png) [@fisherking](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fisherking)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/29 "2021-04-23T15:47:54Z")

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the reason to get a newer computer (i think) isn’t so much about ram and storage, but about power and speed, ie the _processor_. and that has never been user-replaceable.

also, am not saying that ‘_ordinary people_’ (your phrase) don’t need or deserve more storage space. the truth is, if you want 2TB (for example) physically on your mac, you’ll have to buy a 2TB mac; just the way it is.

but even with a macbook, you could always archive old work and files to an external, and then not need to carry that drive with you.

finally, i use idrive to backup my macs online. if i were travelling, and needed a file NOT on my macbook, i can download it easily enough from my backup.

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**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/30 "2021-04-23T15:48:54Z")

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Seems like Apple’s latest hardware is a polarizing topic. Who knew!? 😋

I don’t want to close threads, but this conversation seems to be moving in the wrong direction. Please keep it civil — [Forum code of conduct is viewable here](http://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/read-me-first-welcome-message-code-of-conduct/29540).

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/31 "2021-04-23T15:49:42Z")

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if i point out that someone is whining, i am being ‘rude and ignorant’. i hear you. but if you point out that i’ve done that, then it’s ok for _you_ to call me ‘rude and ignorant’? how is that ok? hmmm…

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**Author:** ![fisherking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fisherking/32/16909_2.png) [@fisherking](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fisherking)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/32 "2021-04-23T15:50:54Z")

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apologies, it was _rolisize_ who posted the picture (and hasn’t explained anything)…

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**Author:** ![fisherking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/fisherking/32/16909_2.png) [@fisherking](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/fisherking)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/33 "2021-04-23T15:55:29Z")

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sorry, am part of the problem here, and will bow out now. thanks for the great, and helpful forum (and the app itself).

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**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/35 "2021-04-23T16:14:11Z")

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Unfortunately I’ve had to close this thread and remove some posts as it’s got out of hand.

If anyone is unsure of what’s expected behaviour here, we have a [forum code of conduct](http://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/read-me-first-welcome-message-code-of-conduct/29540).

In short, Just be nice and respectful to the other humans here.

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**Author:** ![dan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forums.realmacsoftware.com/dan/32/28516_2.png) [@dan](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/u/dan)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.realmacsoftware.com/t/thoughts-on-todays-apple-event/38859/36 "2021-04-23T16:14:16Z")

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