Anyone get a MacBook Neo?

It would be nice for two or three hours a night sitting with the wife in the living room…

I could get some stuff done on elements and enjoy… Just not sure.

For the same price, you could get a M4 mini…

I would need a large screen estate for working with elements. So I would need to add an external screen as well - not an option for me.

Amazon is out of M4 mini now….

Could be the M5 mini soon…

For me - my wife is going to need a computer - perhaps - work from home - this would be the better choice

But the FOMO for the Neo :slight_smile: everyone is raving about it :slight_smile:

Also: never buy a first version from apple. The next one will have the A19 and about 12GB RAM so it is worth the wait

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Yes :+1: your right…

On a related note, this is a lovely post about the MacBook Neo and how the wrong computer, can sometimes be the right computer for you.

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Very nice article… memories

Started on a TI 994a in the 1970’s… typing in basic code from magazines…

Fun times :slight_smile:

No disk drives yet - saved data to a portable cassette player…

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I’ll tell you about my recommendation to photographers: the Neo is not the right choice; the base Air is a far better choice.

This gets down to RAM and SSD, basically. Has nothing to do with anything else. The RAM and SSD in the Neo are slower. They are also bare minimum (e.g. 8GB, 256GB). The way the macOS works is essentially RAM Doubler (a product I produced at Connectix many years ago): unused memory blocks are used first, compression of memory blocks is used second, and swapping of memory blocks to SSD is used last.

In the context of word processing, email, Web browsing, the speed at which those things are done isn’t meaningful; you’d see no performance lag. As you start working with large files (e.g. 45mp raw photos, but I’d guess large Elements projects, too), you trigger more compression and swapping and would see some performance hit.

But even more important is how often you’re swapping out to that 256GB SSD. The NAND gates in SSDs have a limit to how often they can be written to. macOS and your applications are going take up, oh, one-quarter the SSD, meaning that the remaining 190GB+ is getting hit more often as swapping happens. TRIM will try to balance the writes, but one thing I’ve found on all the small SSDs is that they do show wear fairly fast in the macOS. Apple caught something they were doing that was acerbating that and fixed it, but still: big projects on a base Neo will likely be swapping a lot.

The base Air is the same weight and doesn’t have the same problem, as it is 16GB/512GB, which is enough to reduce the RAM Doubler impacts.

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The Non-Lit keyboard is a deal breaker for me but a great Mac other then that…