Elements thoughts

Hi there,

I bought Elements a little while ago and I wholeheartedly support the goals of the software. Having used it intermittently I like many things about it. I find the user interface to be especially polished and I can see the care and energy put into creating it. On the other hand, coming as I do from an html/css/tiny bit of js background! I find it quite difficult to pick up.

It may be that I’m looking at it from the wrong end of the telescope, but I had hoped that I could drop in say, a sticky menu and get to the actual anchor links “within” this. Of course I can, but as I do, from my somewhat limited experience with elements, I can only define the values that the component provides. I was under the impression that I could access the full gamut of css/tailwind classes. I see that in the advanced box I can add classes. Is that what I would need to do. I just had hoped that these sorts of features would be accessible.

It just feels that many things are abstracted away behind a component. I get it, it allows for curated options that work. But on the other hand I look at the GitHub to make my own and it looks far beyond my ability! I feel stuck in between - needing more control than some off the shelf components provide, but not enough grey matter to make my own component!

Am I approaching this wrong? I so really want to use elements. But as it stands I’m making more progress with Astro & ChatGPT LOL! Don’t take this the wrong way. I really do want to use Elements and it is so close to being what “I” want it to be, but maybe it just isn’t right. I dunno!

Best,

Michael

Have you looked at the custom components? If you do something regular that need s a little help you can write HTML Custom component that you can add styling, CSS, JS and other things to make a component add to your standard offering or write something from scratch.

Also things like shopping cart snippets can be added here to add e-commerce option to your offering. Good Luck!

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Set the anchor destination in the ID box in the Advanced section of the destination component/section/etc. In the link section, you can then set the anchor destination you want to go to.

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I am done with Elements and anything to do with rapid weaver. Damn subscriptions, Blocs does a great job and you only pay once. Elements 1.0 was a ripoff…

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your statement is incorrect.

  1. You don’t have to renew the subscription if you don’t want to. You can continue using Elements without any problems; you just won’t receive any further updates. So where’s the issue?

  2. It’s similar with BLOCS, just presented in a different way.
    Users paid for BLOCS 1, then paid again for BLOCS 2, BLOCS 3, BLOCS 4, BLOCS 5, and BLOCS 6 — and they will most likely have to pay again for BLOCS 7 and 8.

So what exactly is the difference?

If you want to express criticism or dissatisfaction, feel free to do so here in the forum. People will listen and respond constructively. But polemical comments don’t help anyone — maybe take a moment to think about that.

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for me its the pricing of components…..Photo pro is more than I paid for elements itself!! bought the password component which does not work as described as in once your logged in and set for 1 day your still logged in 3 days later even after a computer shut down but its still being sold for £xx I had to get a refund. I would buy many components if reasonably priced. I would buy again if it was fixed and I asked over a week ago if it was..no response

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Hi @Godber

On the Password Protect component, we did spend time with you trying to get to the bottom of what was happening. When it still wasn’t working the way you expected, we refunded you. That felt like the right thing to do.

Apologies if we missed your message, we’ve had a lot of activity on the forum recently, so your message must have slipped past. It definitely wasn’t intentional.

We haven’t had any other reports of the login duration behaving like you described. That doesn’t mean your experience wasn’t real, just that we haven’t been able to reproduce it elsewhere.

If you’d like to give it another go, I’m more than happy to work with you and make sure it behaves properly in your setup. I’m confident in the component, and I’m equally happy to support you properly going forward.

So if you do decide to try it again, just let us know.

ok thanks…im guessing no one reported it because they probably are not looking.ore using that setting. But maybe later.

Chris I respect your opinion but as Gen-Ancient I was always taught you only get out what you put in! You seem to just post negative comments on this forum so to me this shows your negativity for this product. If I’d seen lots of posts from your supporting this product and suggesting new things or work arounds like most here I would have a different opinion.

It was a BETA programme and in parts still is. This has been shaped by testing and adding elements all the time and will get better as it ages.

IMO You can not compare Elements with anything you have used at the moment as it’s too “new” but getting there fast. Enjoy your Blocs journey and paying for upgrades, which is an old model as most developers and also other professions like monthly incomes not sporadic income.

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I must say, I like Elements more and more. I takes some time to learn the basic, but once you get it, it’s fun. The User Manual is very helpfull. I recently bought the Lander Project. It payed €19,50, wich is very nice price. It was also a good project to start my own website.

To be very honest, some extras are expensive (for me). I understand that it takes time to build them, so there must be a price for this work. I also understand that the basic components in Elements are very good. But some additinal components could be interesting for not Pro users. But I think the price will keep these people away. Or maybe we have to wait untill the 3th party components be availible.

But, I love Elements.

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Hi there, back again! I still don’t understand. I want to target the underline of the navigations (anchor links). With the menu component I can style the hover background, I can’t get to the border-bottom style. Also I’d like to add svg icons for each of the a links.

In my previous site I added these using pseudo css. There appears to be no way for me to do what I want without building my own component. If I did (I don’t think I’m smart enough) it would take be longer than writing the css. It just feels that unless the component supports what has been allowed, I cannot break out of the system. I had hoped I could roll my own so to speak!

When you say you want to “target the underline” does that mean you want to change the underline in some way? That typically would be done with the Advanced Classes option in the Inspector.

Perhaps pointing us to an example of what you’re trying to do would help.

Sorry, I probably wasn’t clear enough… Here are some screenshots of my existing website. I meant adding a bottom border to the anchor state on hover. I used pseudo classes to target an svg icon and a border-bottom.

Put that item in a Component and use the existing hover controls on the Component. Bottom border is easy. It’s unclear to me what you want the SVG to do, but a box shadow via Effects would be easy.

If you are wanting to add SVG icons to your pages or links that can be added in the page info panel. In the little drop well next to the Title.

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Thanks for your replies. Do you mean that instead of using the standard menu component I should create my own? If so I guess that’s an option. I’m still trying to wrap my head around things so I will try and see if I can do that.

We’re still early on in this Elements experiment. What Realmac gives us as basic Components is just that, basic. Over time we should see more and more creative and “designed” Components appear that do things differently.

However, my problem is that I’m still not clear as to what you want your UI to look like and do. The first problem in design is definition and goal. The clearer your intention is stated, the easier it is for others to help you.

I take it at this point that what you want is a menu that underlines on hover and has SVG next to names. I’ll point you at the Microblog project, which has SVGs for each menu item. You could add an underline to those via Borders > Hover and a Width for the bottom border.

But the simpler answer is that if the Menu Component doesn’t do what you want, yes, you should create a Global that does what you want.

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I hear you. And yes I hope newer components will add more options. Obviously the draw of Elements was not to have to get down & dirty w the code.

I didn’t really want to share my website, but here it is. As you probably can see I have a long way to go if I am going to use Elements to recreate this! The navigation at the top shows what I’d like to emulate: large hit zones, text color change (can be done). border-bottom style animated from opacity:0 - 1 and border width expand.

To be clear, I understand I might not be able to do everything I have there, but I’m hoping to get close. ATM I’m trying Astro & Elements. Astro is very good, but I’m living in hope that I can recreate my site in Elements to gain more visual control over things without loosing days/weeks hand building the site (like I did originally).

Wrt the blog project – yes I have been trying to work with it. I can get the spacing etc right. It’s the border I just don’t understand how to replicate. If I’m honest I find elements very confusing to align with my current html/css knowledge. I know it’s abstracting a lot of it away from that, but I’d like to try!