@ben I am doing brilliantly on my CMS2 project and I’m very happy. However, I may have to go and visit a relative who is a poorly at the moment. I know I will have some downtime whilst away so I can use the online editor - no problem all set up and working.
So here’s my thoughts - as I normally work on desktop as the screens bigger for my aging eyes, whilst away I’ll be working on iPad with keyboard. I am correct if I work in online editor the site gets updated real time but what about my desktop app - as I don’t see how they are (or have never been) connected this way how do I “sync” my desktop on return so I know where I am up to and what I have done? Is there an easy way? TIA
My hope is still that the CMS app will receive another update. Above all, it should become a bit more independent from the main app.
What I mean is that the CMS should get its own dedicated section within the app, similar to Resources — where only folders and Markdown files can be managed. Ideally with a simple sorting function and the option to either upload the entire CMS directory or only individual files.
That way, only the Markdown files would actually be updated, without all the other extra stuff. That should also make the export process a bit faster.
So what’s the need for sync? It seems @ben thinks it’s nil, but users appear to have a different opinion, though it’s not clear what problem a full sync solves. The biggest problem I can think of that would be solved is moving a site from one server provider to another, which is, as it turns out, a reason that Realmac probably ought to come up with a way of syncing.
I’m currently on Dreamhost, but if I wanted to move to Elements servers, the fact that I’ve used the online editor means that I now have a more difficult issue than just “publish the site to the new service.” So I challenge Realmac to fix that problem. (Maybe I’ll think of others. ;~).
Maybe I dint explain myself clearly? Apologies! I will be using online editor on a test site as it’s very large and growing. I will be crating md files whilst way which will show on published page. When I get home they wont be on desk top as theres no backward link. But at 70 I work on a large monitor desktop so I will lose track of what’s done/or not. So my question was “sync” how do I add everything to my desktop in an easy way when home. TIA
Why not use the Online CMS2 Editor when you’re at home working on your large monitor? It will show you the same things you were working on from your iPad.
Currently there is no sync back to Elements for the things that you add to your blog through the Online CMS2 Editor. Some have requested this feature.
The only current way is to log into your web server and download the files from the web server directly through cPanel.
Edward thanks for your input, I appreciate what your saying about “online editor” at home but I am trying to design 'comic" style pages and I’m using various tools and trying things out in 'home" version, thats why using “online” version is not fully an answer for me. Also whilst away I’ll be doing a lot of research and getting links so will use online editor then to “catalogue” in the 20+ different pages I have md’s for.
You could use an FTP client to sync the files from the server to your local machine. I do this all the time, and it helps to have the files locally. I use either Transmit or Forklift to do this, but you could also use Cyberduck if you wanted a free solution.
I create sync tasks that I run periodically to keep my local files in sync with the server.
We’ve discussed this (a lot) internally, and it’s something we’d like to tackle in the future. We have some good ideas about how we can sync and integrate the app and CMS better.
Right now, we’re focusing on fixing up CMS issues and working on some exciting updates to the core app so it won’t happen soon, but just know it’s on our roadmap
We offer a free migration service, so I can migrate all your files from your old Dreamhost server to our server, including files created by the online editor.
There’s also Mountain Duck, I find it a better option than Cyberduck for the use case you are describing. It’s not free though, but you can usually find good deals on it throughout the year.
Easy for the case I gave, not easy for all other cases. Such as transfer instead from Bluehost to Dreamweaver.
A “static” Web site really needs to be complete and static in the source that builds it. You’re engaging independent Web site developers, they want to be independent of dependencies wherever possible, because we’ve all been burnt more than once with splits and dependencies and lack of control over something.
Which brings up a question (I haven’t tried this yet myself): If I use the online editor, then bring back the new posts to my Project file (e.g. via an FTP/copy), then click Publish, which file is being used in the CMS? (a) The one that was created online, (b) the one that was published (overwriting the online one), or what I fear, some permutation of (a)(b)?
This is why if they add a syncing function it has to go both ways and verify which is the newest. Right now if you have it in Elements and you update online, if you do a re-publish all it will definitely overwrite the newer online version.
I don’t understand this comparison. Bluehost is a web hosting provider. Dreamweaver is an archaic web building app. They aren’t the same things.
But any web hosting provider who performs a migration would be able to pull all of your files from the old server to the new server, which would include any files from the Online Editor. That’s not something that is specific to us.
But yes, we’ve already stated we’d like to add sync but haven’t started working on it yet. Keep an eye out for future updates.
