Adobe replacement

For those of you still using Adobe. With their recent decision to possibly use your private original works you might want to look at Affinity. They currently have a 50% sale on with no subscriptions.

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Yes but Affinity is now Canvas… So I moved back to Adobe two months ago after supporting Affinity from the start… What’s the name of this dance One forward one backward :yawning_face:

I’m curious, what did you not like about Canva that made you run from Affinity? Plus, are you willing to give all your work to Adobe for the privilege of paying them monthly to use their apps?

Well I think the only important part of my message was about « dance » :grin: The reason I ran from Affinity was Canva ie subscription. I supported Affinity 200% until that : MY CHOICE. For my return to Adobe in add it’s because of integrated workflow between app… For giving my work to Adobe in addition to my money… hmm all published work is used by others (AI attack no ? but I don’t share when I don’t want)… hmm how many people make a donation for stacks to dev who provides them to everybody freely… hmm why trying to prove that somebody who doesn’t think like me is less intelligent… :face_with_monocle:

For anybody only using Photoshop, Pixelmator Pro is also a nice alternative. For some reason I’ve always found Adobe products difficult to use (steep learning curve, bloated software, looks kinda dated). Pixelmator Pro on the other hand has been the opposite of all those things.

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@dang is Pixelmator a buy one and done or subscription or scheduled payment?

buy on App Store been getting updates for years and paid once only.

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Yeah I 'm just baffled at why people are interested in Adobe. I could somewhat see why 10 or especially 20 years ago. I just hate the fact that they destroyed Macromedia. I’d love to see RealMac become a new Macromedia, a company that just does online interactive projects really well instead of trying to do everything and therefore screwing things up.

All this makes me think, I don’t really know why, of the Linux world and sudoers (sudo supporters). When I pointed out from the start that it was a mistake to use Sudo because it was too easy to grant root rights, everyone took me for a dinosaur (in fact for something else but it’s less polite). Today Debian has gone backwards. Sudo is no longer enabled by default. It has once again become normal to differentiate between the administration of a system and its use. Perhaps Adobe in its evolution, its hesitations, its errors and then its adjustments manages to fulfill what people like me expect: integration. In another post it was about the Apple ecosystem, it seems to me that it is the same path with Adobe. In the end I also weighed the price, for €70 per month you have access to everything like a professional studio. As a former smoker, it cost me much more to ruin my health. I hope to have shed some light on the reasons which might lead one like me to consider Adobe other than the work of the devil… Maybe the important is to respect other people even if we’re sure that they’re wrong :expressionless:

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While I’ve largely moved to Affinity and Procreate these days (I’m using the iPad more and more, and my needs aren’t as demanding as they once were), if you NEED the professional features of the Adobe apps they are great value for money, especially if you need to move/link assets between applications and collaborate with others. For professionals the annual suite usually pays for itself within in a day of work.

I think one of the problems Adobe has is the sheer number of people who use it non-professionally, at which point it becomes very expensive for a hobby, and comes with A LOT of complexity to learn in the apps and workflows themselves.

In recent years Adobe have tried to ‘dumb-down’ their apps (Home Screen, templates, UI changes, etc) a little to appeal more to these users, while frustrating their professional users who are not only annoyed at these ‘features’, but also aren’t seeing the professional features (and bug fixes) they’ve been asking for for decades.

I loved working with the Macromedia apps, (esp. Freehand, Fireworks, and Flash) and was gutted when Adobe killed/abandoned them all. While I’ve used Adobe products for over 30 years, I’ve never really had any deep attachment to them.

They’re just tools that get the job done, and fortunately today we have other excellent tools that are often more than capable for many users.


As a photographer, I have used Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop for years. Yes, I was disappointed with the switch to a subscription model. However, a number of big upgrades have been added, and I still pay $10.00 a month.

Here is a blog article from Adobe that helps clarify the new terms and conditions. I think there are some misunderstandings regarding the protection of your content rights. A clarification on Adobe Terms of Use | Adobe Blog
Here’s what to know about Adobe’s Terms of Use updates | Adobe Blog

I don’t have the time to follow every line of fine print that Adobe keeps changing to their terms. I just want to spend all day focusing on my work.

I too was surprised when I found out. I use both brands but I recommend Photo2 to everyone ( the iPad version works well) , even just to have a backup with 100% privacy at work.

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@MultiThemes Hi, yes I recommend too, my decision to move back to Adobe is not about quality but being earnest (seems I’m not the first to talk about that :grin:) ie no subscription, and also workflow between apps (Character/Premiere/AE/audition, I gain a lot of time). I’m really suspicious with the forecoming V3, hope I’m wrong. BTW I continue to play… hmm work with QuickSVG, thanks again for this beautiful stack. Cheers

I’ve always appreciated using the full Adobe suite through my previous employment, but I’ve come to prefer Affinity’s Publisher 2 and Designer 2 over InDesign and Illustrator. For my business, I subscribe to Adobe’s Photo special, which offers Photoshop and Lightroom for just $10/month—a great deal for accessing advanced features like content-aware fill and 3-D modeling that aren’t available in Affinity Photo. Although I previously had access to Acrobat Pro through my former job, I’ve purchased PDF Expert for my business needs. It’s robust enough for my requirements and often available at a discount.

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But Affinity has been bought by Canva (not the best move in my opinion).

I believe they are going to subscription based / yearly pricing.

I’ll have to find something else now.

They say they are not. Nothing changes but deeper integration. On what basis do you believe this to be true?

Actually, I misspoke. I’ve had emails from them hinting at the subscription model. But the most recent email I got dispels that.

For those using (or have used) both Adobe and Affinity products, would you say that Affinity’s apps are more intuitive (easier) to use than Adobe’s products? I dabbled with Adobe’s stuff (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc.) back in Uni but just couldn’t get into them for some reason. This was a long time ago so I’m sure there have been enhancements to Adobe’s apps, but I’ve just never revisited them.

This is an interesting question. I’m not sure I can put my finger on one single answer. I used Aldus, Altsys, Adobe, Macromedia, Quark and all the rest since they started. Still have boxes and floppies for version 1.x for most of them.

Affinity is different but not massively. It takes a bit to wrap your head around how they do things. Most thing are not simple, single steps and a lot is buried in the interface.

For this reason I would say Adobe is generally easier for most tasks.

It is a good lesson to learn, never make a task more than one click away if at all possible. Just because a feature is in the UI does not mean it gets used. Thus a very powerful piece of software can be labeled as weak or inadequate simple because the UI is difficult to use.