Maybe my coffee level is too low, but I could not find the free download for the 30 day trial.
So I just hit “buy” and will hope for the best…
I see there is a “free” version for the total CMS though (I bought the Easy version as that would work for my client’s needs). Still waiting for my download link to come though…
(it finally showed up, 23 minutes later. Guess I am not the only one running low on coffee, lol)
The free 30 day trial is here:
http://cms.joeworkman.net/pricing/
Horses For Courses
While the per domain licence may be considered expensive for a personal site, I have no doubt that this ‘enterprise licencing model’ will be very useful for those of us with multiple business clients who are not themselves RapidWeavers but who need a comprehensive CMS built into their sites to give them the necessary control they seek.
As far as I’m concerned, in these cases the cost of the licence will be included in the budget and happily covered by the client.
Total and Easy are obviously aimed at two very different markets I would probably label as ‘Enterprise’ and ‘Personal’. If you’re in business then Total CMS is a very attractive option — especially if you buy 5 licences — as it essentially costs you nothing.
And while the Easy CMS is perfectly weighted for personal sites, it’s also a good option I’ll be looking at for small businesses, although in that respect it will face very stiff competition from Armadillo.
Like I said, horses for courses.
Marten
@anon75570550 very well put – i’m very excited to see RW maturing into the enterprise market
Just a quick note about this. The changes were made by you, 2 days ago. The forum software keeps track of all edits and revisions, and we can compare the differences. Nothing’s been censored.
Happy to send a screenshot if needed.
Thanks,
—Nik
If I buy Total CMS, do this include the Easy CMS version too?
On some of my sites I work with sub domains. Have I to buy a license for each subdomain?
Hi @WDA No easyCMS does not come with TotalCMS it is a separate stack altogether … Yes you can use TotalCMS on the subdomains of the registered Domain … http://docs.joeworkman.net/rapidweaver/stacks/cms/total-cms/licensing
Perhaps an interesting and a good development, but please do not forget the current user including many hobbyists with a passion for RapidWeaver. I personally think the enterprise market has already made his choice for wordpress. Wordpress CMS is free and tested. And can install on most hosts with a push on the button. Difficult to enter into the competition with free. And the plugins that need to be paid for as the SEO plugins by for example Yoast ( https://yoast.com/software/ ) stands at a very high level. For the enterprise market worth to pay for. If you want to enter the competition on the enterprise market and drive away from the “current user” you really have to now what you are doing. Something to think carefully about. I use RapidWeaver from passion (and this may cost money). Not for business reasons. Then I made another choice in that case.
WOW, I think that is expensive - paying two times for the same thing. Most of the time costumers only like to have one ore two CMS sites that could be made with easy CMS. Maybe to edit the ‘about us’ site and most of the time they don’t like to pay for that simple service. If I buy a professional (total) version, the simple stuff should be included.
Just my 2 cents…
@WDA Everything is included in TotalCMS that is in EasyCMS plus much more, I don’t really understand, have you seen the videos? http://cms.joeworkman.net/
Yes I saw the videos.
I understand - if I buy the Total CMS, that is licensed to a single domain, I have to pay second time for easy CMS, if I need CMS on an other domain for a simple text change…
Maybe I missed some informations in video or FAQ… but I haven’t understand how the client can enter the web site to make the changes. A different web address with an admin password?
Where can I find infos about this aspect?
And also: is it possible to simply add CMS to an existing site made with third party stacks and themes?
Hey @Trystero
You make the admin page on a separate page. If you get TotalCMS, it includes a Protect stacks which is like PageSafe, if you get EasyCMS then you would need to get the PageSafe stack.
Yes, very easy to do this, you would just need to convert the areas you already have to the CMS stacks, I would also suggest copying and pasting content into a text editor (like TextEdit), but not that hard at all.
Check out the CMS Demo pages, you can go on the admin pages and change content easily.
@Trystero I have 2 demos on the CMS site. You will see an edit this page button on each demo that will allow you to see how the admin page could be built. Remember that there are just stacks so that you have the power to design the admin pages how you see fit.
Soccer Demo with Total CMS
Cafe Demo with Easy CMS
Now obviously on a live site, you would not have prominent buttons that say “EDIT THIS PAGE”. And the admin pages would be password protected.
I hope this helps
@WDA You are not paying for the same thing twice. With Easy CMS, you can buy it once and use it as much as you want.
If you need more power you can install Total CMS on your customer’s domain and let them try it for 30 days. If they or you desire that functionality, then the license fee is $99.95 for that domain. This is a one time fee, its not recurring.
I put thousands of hours into Total CMS. I felt that this pricing model makes it more accessible to everyone. As well as being fair to me as the developer. With this model, the customers that use it more get more value out of it, and hence pay more for that value in the long run. However, Total CMS is still affordable to the pro-hobbyist that wants to run the CMS on their website. That is only if they want more than what Easy CMS provides.
For the users that are building websites for clients, you are running a business. This pricing model is routine in business software. This is because you are not purchasing the license. The license is for your customer’s website. It is ultimately up to you if you want to pass that cost onto your client.
I hope that this sheds some light on how this pricing model works.
@Trystero You can definitely migrate an existing project to use the CMS. In this case, I recommend that you follow these steps…
This approach is pretty full proof, especially since you can build and preview it all inside RapidWeaver without affecting the current live static site. Only once you are happy with everything do you then publish the pages that are now managed by the CMS.
@zeebe @joeworkman
Thanks for the explanation, now everything is understandable.
Another question: I downloaded the demo project and I found one Content page and one Admin page.
So I need one Admin page for a site or for every page of a site?
In a next update of the demo site, add a second Content page, so it will be more clear.
I’ve edited my post as some wires were overlapped/crossed…!
Cheers!
Aaron
