Hi @Turtle,
I’ve just read your review which is fine except I do have an issue with your comments about “Overhead”.
The entire Foundation CSS grid is only 24kb in size (and 17kb) minified. I don’t understand why you refer to this as a huge overhead. Similarly the entire Bootstrap grid is only 26kb.
Both Bootstrap and Foundation grids provide the complete functionality for columns, visibilities, media queries and advanced layouts such as source ordering and column push/pull.
I am in now way commenting on this stack which I am sure is a fine product but I do feel that there are a lot of misconceptions about frameworks in the RapidWeaver community.
I have been developing framework based sites for many years both with off the shelf ones and self authored ones and while they are not applicable in every case they are certainly not bulky or “overhead hungry” solutions. In my short time using Rapidweaver I have compared the volumes of CSS and JS for themes with frameworks and not surprisingly they are roughly comparable with like for like functionality. In fact many of the themes use either Foundation, Bootstrap or UIKit anyway it is just that users don’t seem to realize it.
Thats it, I’ve got it off my chest now, I hope that you do not take offence, I only mention it for general informative purposes and as I say in no way am I comparing any of these statements to this stack which looks highly functional and a great addition to the stacks compliment.
Hey Phil, thanks for the feedback about my review.
I am in no way dissing Frameworks, as I use (am playing with) Foundations, BootStrap & Pure. I like each of them and it is hard to decide which to use for a site. Theme’s can be limiting, Frameworks are pretty open to customization.
In regards to overhead… the less a page must load the better correct? So, with the Reflow stack, there is no need for any of the Framework base code to get it to work. No need to BUY the Framework and yet have similar functionality for flowing column content. This stack can be used in any Theme without the need for a Framework.
Hope that clarifies and thank you for bringing the concern to my attention and hope that I have cleared up any misconceptions.
Absolutely lightweight is good and an 8kb grid is certainly that. As I said, I didn’t want the issue to be confused.
It is of course self evident though that any responsive theme will have a grid of some sort, whether custom of proprietary. How about a @Doobox theme based around the Reflow grid, super light and just what people want, simple and controllable. That would be great.
I embarked on a theme a few times over the years. But what looks stunning to me on day one in a mock up, end’s up looking nothing special in my mind after 7 days of developing it, and looking at it 18 hours a day
