2 ‘features’ that are preventing me from switching to 8

Simulator in Custom: cant read the page width below 370ish and the height below 500ish
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Both of those things drive me insane in RW8. Simulator and Preview are both slower than actually publishing to the web and previewing it.

  1. I loved changing the width the preview to view in real time how the pages will break. I really miss that feature. The custom simulator helps, but is much slower than the preview in RW7.

  2. It slows RW8’s opening down considerably to go back to the state it was closed in. Half the time I close the window I have Preview open, and boy do I wish it wouldn’t try to reload the file that way. Please just add the ability to turn it off?

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Not to mention most of the time the simulator changes you back to the last page it rendered when you change a page in the edit window. Why is the simulator dictating what page I’m trying to work on?

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I am actually stunned by the fact that some users are offering workarounds to regain some of the functionality removed for no apparent reason by the devs instead of joining in and demanding its reinstatement, and the dev himself point blank refusing to enter into a discussion as to why it was removed. It’s not one lone voice crying about this functions removal it’s almost the only thing that is being requested.

@dan You are a great developer with an amazing product but you don’t know what’s best for us. Listen to your users and at the very least explain the reasoning for the removal of this crucial function. Better still put it back.

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Another voice apparently in the wilderness

Chalk me up as another long-term user who laments the loss of the ability to change the width of the preview window. I use this feature constantly in RW 7.

Being able to Preview at any width is important to see how the page will look quickly. A lot of people focus on “devices” and preset breakpoints, but actually you need to quickly test with sliding the window as people all sorts of browser window sizes, especially on laptops, so you need to make sure your design doesn’t have a point when it looks odd.

This “proper” testing of responsive sites is important and it’s not necessarily device based and simulators for devices have their place, however, you still need to be able to preview at all/any sizes as laptop and desktop browsers can be made any size.

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I used it all the time and miss the ability to adjust the preview window, but now in edit mode I just Command + P and slide browser window to suit, it works well enough for me. Maybe RW will listen to users complaints or maybe not but I still think RW8 is the best version yet in what is an ever evolving program.

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By setting the Simulator on “Custom” you CAN size it yourself just like Preview. The size is shown at the top of the window. Admittedly, at really narrow sizes this is clipped as shown by @PaulRussam above. That is a valid point. The sizing needs to be shown a different way.

But other than that, why is a Simulator window set to “custom” any different than the Preview? You can size it to as you want, size is reported back, and simulator renders just as fast as Preview for me (almost instantly) and I don’t have to click back and forth between edit mode and preview mode.

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Everyone has their own work habits. The simulator allows me to do everything I did in earlier versions, AND MUCH MORE. It doesn’t take away any functionality, it just changes it to different place and improves it. Thank you Dan and Ben for this large improvement. I love the simulator. A large step forward.

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As I’ve said several times prior to this:
I have NO problem with the simulator (other the the value display)
I have NO problem with the removal of the preview size presets
BUT
Why remove the very useful feature of changing the preview window width.

If you only work on one site then I can see that once your site is ‘designed’ and all you’ doing is adding/editing content then simply simulating it prior to publish is all you need but…
If you are developing multiple sites, each unique in its design and content then being able to very rapidly change the width of the page to see the effects is if not essential then damn useful.
The other thing to think about is that I invariably have RW, Transmit, Slack, Affinity Designer, SublimeText, Email, Finder etc etc all open at the same time. Are you telling me that adding Simulator to the horde is better than just PreviewMode > Test > Edit Mode

I don’t really understand what that brings to the discussion?

I don’t know on this one… perhaps it comes down to hardware? Not sure. I almost always have Chrome, Safari, Pages (sometimes the new and old versions), BBedit, Mail, and Yummy open when I run RW. I see no difference in speed of Preview vs Simulator. In fact, Simulator is faster to use (for me) because it’s already open and it’s rendered by the time I look over at it (on 2nd monitor.) All I need do is “grab” the corner and size it same as grabbing the edge of Preview and sizing.

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Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion on the topics here. Some actually like to give positive feed back :slight_smile:

Likewise, I don’t understand what that adds? I think it’s great lots of people, myself included, enjoy the new Simulator, but why make it compulsory for people to use it? I’m going to say there is no operational or functional reason for the removal of the preview feature lots are missing, if there were I’m sure the Realmac team would have by now said so, instead it seems like a decision was made to force change on users.

I agree 100%. But in a discussion that is clearly labelled as a request to bring back a removed feature, what is the point of joining in just to say you like a new feature?

Maybe change the title of your post then: Please, only people who agree with me should add to my post.
Check any post here and you will see both sides.

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It’s not my thread. But I do take on board what you’re saying and agree that my tone and choice of wording is poor. Apologies. What I mean to say is that no one that I’m aware of is saying Simulator is bad, it’s just frustrating that we appear to have been forced to change the way we work for no reason.

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I’m complaining about it, because for some of us, simulator is much slower. I actually love having the separate window for the simulator, in theory, but I find it renders really slowly. Now, saying that, I’m on a mid-level 2011 iMac. But… I still edit multi-cam angle video footage in FCPX and there’s no way RW should bog down my machine more than that, but at the moment, it does. And I really want to turn on “state resume” for my projects.

I’m on a Late 2013 3.2gHz i5 iMac w/ 24gb ram. I replaced the internal drive with an SSD. Rendering is the same for Simulator as Preview. Could it have to do with having an SSD?

I have an SSD as well.