Now you may be wondering why the JS files are not showing the transfer size. This is because by the time the browser goes to load the files at the end of the page, F6 has already downloaded them into cache. Therefore, they load instantaneously. An effective size of 0KB when it comes to page load times.
In order to see the gzipped size, we can go into terminal. I even included jQuery for you.
All this is splitting hairs. Source takes a very interesting approach. It has pros and cons. I donât even know what those are to be honest. I will add that F6 has pros and cons as well. I was not trying to start a technical comparison here. I was simply trying to correct some misconceptions about F6 that I believe some people have.
I did get more than I bargained for, but I greatly appreciate all of the feedback. All of these different opinions is exactly what I was looking for. Smart people can have open debates without taking any of it personally.
In an effort to narrow down the discussion, it sounds like some additional context might help. I am building a website that will have about 4 to 5 pages, each with a different form of information about a single topic. For example, if my page was about apples, I will have a page where I have some form of a gallery of pictures of apples, another page that has summaries and links to books about apples, another with videos about apples, and another about famous people related to the history of apples. I plan to drop in all of the content myself and only occasionally link to a book about apples. I also plan on pushing out social media post when ever I add a photo, book, etc. about apples.
Hopefully this helps narrow things down as I am very grateful for the input.
Like I said before, you will be able to create a lovely site with any of the mentioned frameworks. Have a look through some of the videos about each framework. A 5-10 min video could help you choose which is better for your mind. I am pretty sure all devs have videos on their sites. I have quite a library on my YouTube channel and on the F6 product page.
@habitualshaker, yes, jQuery is gradually going away, even Bootstrap 5 will not be using jQuery. However, like it or not, almost all the current third party suffocated stacks available today use jQuery.
Finding one new slider that doesnât use it, doesnât mean that most RW users wonât need to load jQuery on a large number of pages for the foreseeable future. And once you itâs loaded then it should come from cache for any subsequent needs.
Thatâs good news. Especially as âBootstrap 4â seems to need to load 2 versions of it.
No. But it does show that very good alternatives do indeed exist. I shared that single example to address this point of yours:
I havenât seen any of these third-party stacks that would come close to what the frameworks offer that donât use jquery.
I have absolutely zero issues with these things being loaded when they are required (jquery or a full framework). My point in this whole thread is that very often they arenât.
I appreciate this back and forth, as well. I just bought Rapidweaver to update my 10-year-old HTML/PHP training site run by Sitelok. The best program I have ever purchased.
All my sites are WordPress, but I would never trust WP to secure my main business. (Actually, my wife threatened me as she loves Sitelok too!)
After purchasing Rapidweaver, I had the strange idea to change my 5 WP sites over to Rapidweaver. But I became overwhelmed by which addons I would need and a steep learning curve.
Thankfully I found this forum.
I am now gathering your advice to help me understand if I can manage a change this big at this time.
Many people consider Foundation to be the âbiggest frameworkâ. Just to put it into perspective, the Foundation 6 theme loadsâŚ
CSS - 26KB - 33KB (depending on settings)
JS - 41KB
@joeworkman Do you have an URL of a live F6 website to look at please? or a showcase of F6 site?
Hi,
I would recommend Foundry. Foundation 6 is really great, I use both. But âŚ
Unfortunately the learning curvce is very steep and the documentation is really bad. Joe only offers videos and I don´t like to look hours of videos when I try to understand one stack. I used Foundation 1 and I bought Foundation 6 when Joe released it (November 2019). He promised to offer a demo site, also a documentation, but never realized it. He works very hard on updates and new functions, but sometimes (I think) less would be more and he should really release the demo site and not every week a new video, often 60 minutes long. Just my opinion.
When you look to the Foundry homepage, you will see a really great documentation. Adam has easy to understand texts and also videos - for me that is perfect. And the support is also great (Joe Workman also offers good support, but I really miss the documentation).
So once again, for a newbie I strongly recommend Foundry.
@HGBM Early on, I only had longer form videos. Since I have recorded many more focused videos that are 5-10mins. I have organized them on onto the newer demo site that I hope to have complete by the new year. https://www.foundationstacks.com/demo/site-styles/
Thanks for the feedback. Things were rushed out when I first launched. Its better now and continuing to improve.
While the demo site is in âbetaâ status, the product is far from it. Itâs true, I have focused my time on product development and video training than I have a great demo site. I am pretty happy with how the year has gone actually. I shipped over 200 free updates across all of my products, 43 of which were for Foundation 6 alone.
If you are looking for cool things you can do with Foundation 6 check out Foundation Box.
Each RW project file has a light and a pro version. The Light versione is built with F6 stacks only. The Pro version also features TCMS stacks, if you want a blog or portfolio system on your page the pro version will definitely suite you.
These sites though pretty much prove my point here because although you are saying these are âF6 onlyâ - the truth is that the demos all use third-party stacks. And you (I presume) are turning to these stacks because they can do the job better than the native stacks.
Your Faroe project for instance uses Impact, Moving Box and Scrollmate! F6 isnât left to do much there at all (and certainly nothing that couldnât be done in Source).
