3 Apps to Replace 1

I know this post won’t be popular.

I’ve used RW for must be 10 years. It’s been great!

I simply cannot support one app becoming three apps (Classic, Elements and he who shall not be named), all doing the same thing! This is not good for anything. It will increase costs, create compatibility issues and no end of headaches.

I’m so sorry you devs couldn’t work this out. I will not be upgrading to RW or the new Stacks app. I will move my websites to another app entirely.

All that aside, thanks for a great app that’s served me well this last decade.


Thanks for the feedback, we totally understand the situation our customers face. It’s not ideal, but we’re now doing our best to support everyone that wants to continue using RapidWeaver.

We believe offering these two versions to support EVERYONE is the right thing to do.

You’ll be able to continue using RapidWeaver Classic for many years to come, and who knows, maybe YourHead will even bring Stacksks 5 to Classic! Perhaps @isaiah will chime in on his thoughts about this?

RapidWeaver Elements is our next-generation web design app. We’re doing things with the platform that’s just not possible with the classic version of RapidWeaver. It’s going to be an exciting time ahead for sure.

If you stick within the RapidWeaver ecosystem you’ll be in safe hands going forward.

Thanks again, and I hope you’ll stick around to see how things progress.

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To be honest I like what you are doing and will go with both solutions asap

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That’s great to hear, we’re working hard to do the right thing for our customers :pray:

If a company is to remain relevant it cannot just sit on its past successes. It must at some point in time reinvent itself. I suspect RMS is now doing just that. I like many others thought, and I think rightfully so, that ongoing support for our substantial investment in RW and third-party add-ons was now in jeopardy with the announcement and eventual rollout of Elements. Classic will soften the blow but eventually will, I suspect, be terminated. I for one look forward to the rollout of Elements. If RW classic is eventually terminated it will not be the first piece of software that I have invested in that bit the dust. Now we’ll wait and see what purchasing model RMS embraces. Will it be an outright purchase or subscription?

RapidWeaver is all I have ever used for my 43-year-old business. It’s all I know… And I don’t want to learn anything else at this point of my career… So many very nice people in the community have helped me over the years and I appreciate them so, so much!

I also know that Isaiah & Stacks is amazing! ( I also think Joe workman is amazing! )

Having said all that… Can’t everyone just get along?

For me, the Bottom Line (as a user) is that - What is happening now seems as clear as mud.

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RW8 still works and will for the foreseeable future.

RW Classic will keep Stacks functionality working so upgrading should allow your projects to work just as they are now.

RW Elements, will introduce Realmac’s new builder and at this point doesn’t look like it will include Stacks (Realmac will need to comment here as I’m not sure.)

The Stacks developer is building his own app that will work with his Stacks plugin to enable people to build full websites in his new app as RW is doing now.

If you’re unsure, and your current system is working you can always wait to see how the new releases affect users.

Thanks for that Info. It really does clear some things up. I didn’t realize Isaiah was building his own framework for stacks and website creation. Interesting… I will sit tight and watch

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I’m still struggling to understand the consternation expressed in the original post. As a user, I don’t need all three apps, right? If I am happy with the RW + Stacks combo I am using, I don’t ever need to be involved with Elements or the new Stacks environment from Yourhead, do I? Are people thinking the Stacks 5 plugin WON’T work with Classic, or that Yourhead will abandon updating Stacks as a plugin to focus solely on the Stacks App/Environment?

I know there’s some bad blood out there, and I think it is justified, but strictly as a consumer, I like having options, and keeping a “classic” RW app that allows me to avoid changing apps seems like a really good compromise, while allowing me the option of switching to the Stacks app or the Elements version of RW down the road if I find that either one meets my needs better than my current setup.

Am I missing something?

Your best option is to stay put. Ride out RW8 + Stacks and stacks. RW Classic should run all your existing Stacks 4 and stacks for quite awhile. Stacks 5 is likely going to be solely its own app and environment and will likely not be compatible with RW 8 for very long if at all.

RW needed to move on and that is Elements.

Stacks needed to move on so it was not limited to the restrictions of working with RW’s API. The code that allows the two apps to work together.

So yes, eventually there will be 3 apps all serving the same things just differently.


RW Classic will support Stacks 4 (the current version).

RW Elements currently won’t support stacks at all as it’s introducing it’s new RW builder (Stacks alternative).

YourHead is developing its own web development app that will run Stacks 5 and beyond exclusively. At the moment Stacks 5 is not going to be available on RW.