Quickie: Screens site, foundation theme, preview not working


(Jon Norris) #1

Have to export to view it - just wondering if it isn’t supposed to work til published (but Joes videos show it working!)? All I get is the white drumming fingers on the black background. Am I missing an option?

All up to date stacks etc. Screens 1.1.4, Stacks 3.0, RW 6.3.7


(Jon Norris) #2

Maybe I was the only one who didn’t realise a) that there was a new version/update to Foundation theme and b) that unlike stacks, themes don’t update via RW.
Having said that, still cannot see anything in Preview!


(Andrew Tavernor) #3

Screens should work fine in preview. Does the demo project from Joes site preview OK?
It sounds really odd that it will export but not preview.


(Jon Norris) #4

I’m missing something very basic here if you could help for a minute.
Just yes/no answers will do! Thanks.
(Before I even get onto the fact that Preview works on Joes site but not on mine!)

When I open Joes site - RW pops up red alerts “YourStacks are out of date etc” “Your theme is out of date etc”

Q1: I guess this does not happen on mine because I can’t get the Preview page to work, and the alerts only occur on the Preview page?

I have bought Waterfall yesterday and so the Theme SHOULD be up to date, but Joes site claimed it wasn’t.
Q2: Do you have to open the one and only project that has the Waterfall page, check the Waterfall page every day and click update if needed?
Again, I thought it was automatic.

Key Question 3: When I open an old project to work on, are all the stacks in that project AUTOMATICALLY upgraded to their updated versions that I have downloaded in the intervening weeks/months in that project? To be clear, an old project using say Joes Foundation stacks v1.2 will AUTOMATICALLY, upon opening just update itself to v1.3 or whatever that I had updated to meanwhile?

Please tell me the same happens with themes, opening an old project will automatically become updated to the latest version of the theme that I have downloaded - because I have no idea what version of the theme I have anyway (it doesn’t say in the Theme drop down - just says Foundation)!


(Andrew Tavernor) #5

Q1: I guess this does not happen on mine because I can’t get the Preview page to work, and the alerts only occur on the Preview page?

Correct - Run stacks updater to get the latest stacks. The current version is 1.6.5
My copy of waterfall reports Theme version of 1.6.2 which is correct. You do have to manually check with waterfall yes, but it makes downloading much easier. Usually, just add a waterfall page and run the update when you get the red message saying your theme is out of date.

Just try a new blank project, preview it and see if the update messages are gone after updating.

Key Question 3: When I open an old project to work on, are all the stacks in that project AUTOMATICALLY upgraded to their updated versions that I have downloaded in the intervening weeks/months in that project? To be clear, an old project using say Joes Foundation stacks v1.2 will AUTOMATICALLY, upon opening just update itself to v1.3 or whatever that I had updated to meanwhile?

Yes, the stacks that a project uses are whatever is currently installed in your library BUT…

At certain points, a stack may be deprecated - that is to say that it is superseded by an entirely different stack. This was the case with a lot of the new stacks that were released for Stacks 3 and in particular, regarding the Foundation stacks, at release 1.5.

Old projects with pre 1.5 stacks will still work and you can still edit those stacks as normal - you just cannot drop in new copies of those stacks as they are not shown in your library. In Foundation (and my BWD stacks) these stacks will show the word (legacy) in brackets after the stack name in edit mode. Just to be clear, you do not need to change these for new ones if you don’t want to and you can continue to edit their settings. Many people however swap them out for the new versions in the stacks library in order to benefit from the new stacks 3 features and settings.

Please tell me the same happens with themes, opening an old project will automatically become updated to the latest version of the theme that I have downloaded - because I have no idea what version of the theme I have anyway (it doesn’t say in the Theme drop down - just says Foundation)!

Absolutely - just like stacks, RW will have only one version of your theme installed and this is the one that gets used when you select it for use.

Look in Manage AddOns - and it will tell you the theme version


(Jon Norris) #6

Great, so simple. Thanks.

In fact although Nimblhost told me I need only put a waterfall page in one project it makes far more sense, in fact total sense to have one page in EVERY project so that it kicks in when the project is opened and is there to check. I wish auto-update wasn’t used when it isn’t meant.

Funny - my Foundation theme is 1.6.1 in Addons but 1.6.2 in Waterfall. So something aint right!!

And secondly I never understood this - I thought a project file was a package of all your content AND stacks, and that therefor your old project was stuck with the old versions of stacks. I now understand that upon opening the project file it refreshes the stacks AND the theme. (I understand the deprecating - it happened with Cycler).

I have simply transferred all my content to Joes version of my project file - mine wasn’t working in Preview whatever I did.

Thank you.


(Andrew Tavernor) #7

Glad you have found a solution - it sounds like your project file was corrupted somehow.

A project is a package of your text and images but not the actual stacks themselves - if it were, then by sharing a project file you would also be sharing stacks (and thus unwittingly pirating them).

Each time you make an edit, preview or publish, the code for your page is rebuilt using the stacks that are currently in your library. Stacks edit mode is a truly live and on the fly affair.