Are you struggling to grasp Foundation 6?

I purchased Foundation a long time ago but have never used it. It would be good to see what the advantages are. If they will help me create better sites I will upgrade my release.

@Albertkinng Sorry for the delay. Here is a video on how you could build that same exact page in Foundation 6.

As @teefers said, your big problem is that you are using the Right to Left theme. That will definitely cause you headaches! I don’t know why you don’t have the regular theme installed but you can get it from the product page downloads section.

Hopefully my video shows some of the minor differences in F6. But as you can see the workflow if not much different from your F1 workflow. I have videos about each component that can help you learn a bit more about them since this video was just a quickie to help you.

Next, you may want to change the Stacks Edit mode to be Light. That may help you out.

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@Albertkinng @davidfreels When @teefers mentioned that it is like hand coding, I feel that both of you misunderstood what was meant. This does not mean that F6 requires that you code anything. However, the mindset of building a website with Foundation 6 is very similar to the mindset that someone would take if they were to build a website with code.

As you can see from the video that I posted for Albert above, there was zero code involved. Obviously, that was about the most simple of pages. But you can built very complex webpages without knowing or writing a single line of code.

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@davidfreels I am sorry that my teaching style does not fit your style of learning. I will not disagree with you. I am not sure that there is much that I can do differently. Many people love my teaching style. I am sure that I will continue to grow as a teacher though and hopefully will become better.

My invitation to help you is still open. :slight_smile:

When I first started developing swatches in Foundation 6, I actually had called classes ā€œtagsā€ instead. I thought that by simply calling them tags, it would make beginner users less scared because class is a ā€œcoding termā€. However, in the end, I decided against that. The reason is for your benefit. By using industry terms, I am making you a better website designer. If you ever use another tool, or God-forbid hand code a website, you will be familiar with the proper terms of website development.

But classes are tags. its just a word that you use to associate a style to an element. Or in non-coding terms, a swatch to a stack.

The idea of a class is definitely new to the RapidWeaver user. Foundation 6 is the first thing that really embraces it. I am working with @isaiah in order to make management of them easier in future versions of stacks. However, don’t use this as an excuse not to use F6. There are ways to organize your swatches so that you can easily see what classes you made. You can also use your own naming conventions in your classes in order to make your classes recognizable. I reviewed this idea a little in my video with Jody.

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Big thanks to @teefers and @Ruyton for their help here. :slight_smile:

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@davidfreels @Albertkinng (and anybody else here who would like to take a look) I appreciate that you are struggling to understand the concept of F6 and ā€˜zero coding’ but I’d appreciate your comments on this very simple 4 page F6 demo project to see if you can get your mind around how it is built.

I haven’t had to code anything here or do anything clever and all the ā€˜classes’ applied to the swatches and the appropriate stacks have been made up by me - the names are self explanatory - so no need for me to know anything about coding or the baked-in classes.

It’s a very simple demo, but hopefully you will understand what is going on. There are 3 partials - site styles, menu/banner and footer so these partials appear on every page. It’s also a simple one level menu, just linking to the other pages.

The only non-F6 stack is the free Pen stack from Joe Workman as this has descriptions of the partials, so if you see ā€˜Stack not installed’ that will be it.

There isn’t really any point me publishing the link to my scratchpad file unless you understand how this project is put together. This took me about 10 minutes to build, so I’m not looking for points for style :slight_smile:

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Thanks @joeworkman for your video as I’m a very visual learning guy. Definitely you made for me a very easy and not scary invitation to try F6 now and I will promise you soon I’ll post a video of my first F6 page to be analyzed for all of you and that way my learning and skills on it keep improving. Thanks Joe.

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@Ruyton Thanks for this project my friend. with Joe’s video and your project I think I can actually take a couple of days to learn how to build a website with F6. I appreciate it man. (PLEASE add the scratchpad too)

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@davidfreels OMG blocs looks amazing! Maybe RW9 go beyond that, hopefully. It’s tempting but I have so much money invested in RW that it will be dumb start from scratch with other platform that already have their own stacks option called bricks. I download it and try it out and it’s like having Webflow and Rapidweaver mixed together to get a better experience. My first tryout was great and super easy to achieve. The only thing that really could made me switch is if what they say about opening wordpress pages and edit them in Blocs without code is true. I receive a lot of people that need to fix their wordpress pages and I can’t help because I just work on RW.

@joeworkman Hello Joe :wink: I’ve been purchasing Foundation for ages, but it seams too much different sometimes… The first step seams more ā€œcomplicatedā€. I purchased some already made web site under F6 to try to follow what have been done, but they are too complicated for me. I’m interested in your offer as I would like to jump into Foundation6. I can see it is the most advanced RW ā€œsystemā€ and I’m in love with the swatches… Best RW idea ever… :wink:

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@Frederic have you taken a look at my very simple F6 demo project? This might help you to get started. Feel free to ask any questions.

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Thanks a lot Gary, I’ll have a look and I’ll come back to you if needed :wink: :wink: :wink:

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Also this video @joeworkman did for me would help you a lot to get started. Believe me, without this video will be impossible to understand the logic behind it.

@Albertkinng Obviously having the wrong theme was a big issue. But as I said in the video, the workflow is very similar to F1. What about that video made something click for you?

Yeah, man. That’s why I recommended it to this guy that want to try it out. You did a great video Joe, maybe you think is a silly one but if I never had the opportunity to see that video I will never be able to start with F6. Thanks to that video now I can start a new project but I got to tell you, is a different monster and now I think I can handle it. Your video show me a way to work. F1 still is my security blanket because I don’t need to ask what is this or what I use to get that. So, thanks Joe, I hope I will surprise you with a F6 website soon

This video is a good example of how all your videos should be done. Single focused, to the point, no fluff or commentary. Well done!

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Thanks. As I said earlier, I have 25+ videos that are short and focused just like that one. I will try to make more.

Hi @joeworkman I’ve always been rather curious about Foundation 6 and this thread prompted me to go have a look at it, as I wanted to check out some sort of overview or getting-started video, mostly to see if it really is as complicated as people seem to be saying.

I found the product listing page on your site: Foundation 6 Stack for RapidWeaver and noticed a small video next to the buy buttons, which I assumed would be an overview video, along the lines of ā€œthis is how Foundation 6 worksā€. But it’s not, it’s just you talking for about 8mins about how things used to be and focusing on the fact that people are not ā€œgettingā€ how F6 works.

From a marketing POV this is a terrible idea, as essentially your telling people why they shouldn’t buy your product, but moreover, I still have no clue as to how F6 actually works. If I scroll down there are a lot of tutorial videos, but the ones that sound like they might give me an overview of F6 are often over an hour long, and seem to just consist of you talking to the camera.

I want to see graphical examples of how F6 works, short and shape and to the point. You know, like the type of thing that exist all over the web for products. A typical example is the 2min intro video for Foundry.

I’ve no interest in attending your hangouts (nothing personal, just not my thing), nor do I want to wade through hour-long videos of you talking to the camera, I just want a ā€œmarketingā€ overview. Does such a thing exist for F6?

Without something like this, I wouldn’t consider buying in and I suspect many others won’t too.

@jamesbond this may be of more use to you, nicely laid out and with links to videos for each section. Most of the videos are the short videos covering just one aspect of Foundation 6.

You don’t have F6 yet, but for those who do the project file for this page is available for download at the link towards the bottom of the menu.

Have you used Foundation 1? F6 is very different but the overall concept of starting with a blank project is broadly similar.

https://www.foundationstacks.com/demo/